8-21-24 CDB Adopted MinutesMINUTES
Community Development Board (CDB) Meeting
Wednesday, August 21, 2024 - 6:00 PM
City Hall, Commission Chamber
800 Seminole Road, Atlantic Beach, FL 32233
Present: Kirk Hansen, Chair
Jennifer Lagner, Member
Angela Farford, Member
Harold Gear, Member
Richard Arthur, Member
Ellen Golombek, Vice Chair
Gregory (Greg) Beliles, Alternate Member
Absent: Jeff Haynie, Member
Also Present: Amanda Askew, Planning & Community Development Dir. (PCDD)
Abrielle Genest, Planner
Robert Graham, Acting City Attorney
Valerie Jones, Recording Clerk
1. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
The meeting was called to order at 6:00 p.m. by Chair Hansen.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Approve minutes of the June 18th and July 16th regular meetings of the
Community Development Board.
The minutes were approved.
3. NEW BUSINESS
A. 801 Paradise Lane ZVAR24-0009 (Allen J. Hall)
Request for a variance from Section 24-271(c)(2) to allow the installation of artificial
turf within the required 25 foot wide natural vegetative buffer from jurisdictional
wetlands.
STAFF REPORT: Director Askew presented the information as explained in the staff
report. She also provided a PowerPoint presentation. Mr. Arthur asked if the wetlands
buffer would have been on the survey, then Staff wouldn't have allowed this home to be
built where it is. Director Askew said that was correct, the home encroaches into the
upland buffer. She said there were several homes encroaching the buffer in this
subdivision. They encroach because the survey didn't put the 25 foot upland buffer on
the survey. Director Askew said a friendly letter has gone out to homeowners who are
cutting the buffer.
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APPLICANT REPORT: Allen Hall introduced himself as the applicant. He said he
wanted to make a change to his request by taking a 4 -foot stretch by the pony wall and
leave it natural using pine straw and native Florida plants. He said the City has never
enforced the buffer until now.
PUBLIC COMMENT: Chair Hansen opened the floor to public comment. There were
no public comments.
BOARD DISCUSSION: Ms. Lagner said she went over to the applicant's residence so
that she could understand the photos. She said the applicant just wants to replace the
lawn with artificial turf. Ms. Farford said she is a neighbor and is on the Association
Board. Ms. Golombek asked Ms. Farford if the HOA had taken a position on this. She
said they had not. Mr. Hall said he did submit an application to the HOA. Mr. Arthur
asked if they could have a natural St. Augustine grass there. Director Askew said it is
supposed to be undisturbed so that wouldn't work since the grass would need to be cut
on a regular basis. Ms. Farford asked if the area with the buffer line was from the St.
John's Water Management District. Director Askew said when you have a survey done
and there are wetlands then you have a separate person come out and flag the wetlands.
She said the original survey from the 90's did show the line for the wetlands. Mr. Arthur
asked if the wetland line can move. Director Askew said yes, the line can change.
Mr. Hall said he thought that the line was just a line on the plat since the beginning of
the PUD. He said he didn't think that anyone has checked on where the wetlands are.
Mr. Hall said there would be 15 homes that wouldn't be able to have a back yard and 6
that couldn't have a house.
Mr. Gear said that it is like putting the genie back in the bottle. He said that he walked
back there, and it was very dry for wetlands and there was a fence running across the
line. Mr. Hansen said that at least if turf was put there instead of grass at least it would
alleviate any chemicals or fertilizer. Ms. Lagner said she doesn't have a problem with
the request because the applicant would be taking up existing lawn and replacing it with
the turf.
MOTION. To APPROVE ZVAR24-0009 based on the amendment of the 4 -foot buffer
including native plants adjacent to the property as presented by the applicant. This decision was
based on grounds for decision #2 which reads "Surrounding conditions or circumstances
impacting the property disparately from nearby properties".
Motion: Harold Gear
Second. Gregory (Greg) Beliles
Kirk Hansen
For
Jennifer Lagner
For
Angela Farford
For
Harold Gear (Moved By)
For
Richard Arthur
For
Ellen Golombek
For
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Gregory (Greg) Beliles (Seconded By) For
Motion passed 7 to 0.
B. 0 Beach Avenue ZVAR24-0010 (Dana and Shelley Leonard)
Request for a variance from Section 24-151(b)(1)(d) to allow two (2) detached garages
on one property and to reduce the front, side, and rear yard setbacks required for a
detached garage up to 25 feet in height. Request from Section 24-82 (c) to reduce the
min. distance for mechanical equipment and section 24-15 1 (b)(1)(o) to reduce the min.
setback for exterior stairs.
STAFF REPORT: Director Askew presented the information as explained in the staff
report. She also provided a PowerPoint presentation. Director Askew reminded the
Board that there were 3 emails received regarding this request and there were all
forwarded to the Board via email.
Mr. Arthur asked if there were other non -conforming buildings on other sub -standard
lots that would have had to have the same process. Director Askew said the older
buildings were built in a time when the setbacks were different. She said the ones built
since 2010 have met Code. Director Askew said she didn't have a exact number.
APPLICANT REPORT: Mr. Leonard said that unless a variance is granted then the
property can't be improved at all. He said they bought it at the end of 2020 with the plan
of putting a garage on it because they have 4 vehicles in their family. Mr. Leonard said
there are other similar sub -standard lots that were allowed to be build non -conforming
buildings and he is asking for the same courtesy. Ms. Golombek suggested the applicant
build just a garage without the livable space above and at least meet the front and back
setbacks.
PUBLIC COMMENT: Chair Hansen said that the emails that were received were not
in favor of this request. Chair Hansen opened the floor to public comment.
Charles Cromer of 1778 Beach Avenue introduced himself. He explained that he lives
in the house south of the lot and has lived there for 30 years. Mr. Cromer said he was
not in favor of approving this request. He said the garage would be right up against his
personal residence being only 3 feet off the property line.
Mark Anderson of 1839 Ocean Grove Drive introduced himself. He said he is concerned
that emergency services and fire fighters wouldn't be able to get behind the garage with
less than 2 feet of access.
BOARD DISCUSSION: Ms. Farford said she thought it would be better to have a
building on the lot than to just use it for parking cars. Mr. Arthur said that other similar
properties have been built on so it's a question of how far of a variance should be granted
in comparison to what has been granted up and down the street. Chair Hansen said he
would not vote for this request. He said it's too small a lot and it doesn't make sense to
reduce the side yard setbacks to several feet and affect the neighbors. Mr. Gear said that
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the applicant already has a garage in his home which they turned into living space. He
said the applicant bought the lot knowing it was substandard. Ms. Lagner agreed.
MOTION. To DENY ZVAR24-0010 due to it not meeting any of the criteria for approval.
Motion: Ellen Golombek
Second. Jennifer Lagner
Kirk Hansen
For
Jennifer Lagner (Seconded By)
For
Angela Farford
Against
Harold Gear
For
Richard Arthur
Against
Ellen Golombek (Moved By)
For
Gregory (Greg) Beliles
For
Motion passed S to 2.
C. 317 8th Street ZVAR24-0011 (Cynthia Calland)
Request for a variance from Section 24-172(c)(4) (Old Atlantic Beach requirements) and
Section 23-30(1) to delete the required shade trees. The applicant is proposing to plant
two (2) crape myrtle trees instead of two (2) shade trees.
STAFF REPORT: Planner Genest presented the information as explained in the staff
report. She also provided a PowerPoint presentation. Ms. Golombek asked if the
original house was torn down, if a new home was rebuilt, were 2 shade trees put in and
now the trees are gone without a permit to remove them? Planner Genest said that was
correct. Mr. Arthur asked if this was relevant to today. Planner Genest said yes because
in the tree code it states that you have to maintain the mitigation that is planted on your
site for 3 years so if the house was built in 2017 then after 2020 they removed the trees
without a permit so there is no record of whether the trees met the minimum for a tree
permit. Mr. Arthur asked if the City gives any credence to the arborist letter and if there
was a place in the yard where the shade trees could go. Planner Genest said that the City
is held to the restraints of the Code and they didn't see where this request was suitable to
give an exception to the Code. She said there is room in the front yard to shift a tree
closer to the driveway but recommended the Board ask the applicant. Mr. Beliles asked
if the tree was 8 inches, and the applicant had a tree permit could the trees have been
removed. Planner Genest said that if the trees were removed in the 3 -year timeframe the
City would have Code Enforcement reach out to them. If it was after the 3 years it would
have to meet the minimum for a tree permit.
APPLICANT REPORT: Cindy Calland introduced herself as the applicant. Ms.
Calland said that she learned from a plumber doing maintenance on the sewage pump in
the front yard that she shouldn't have a tree anywhere near the pump, anywhere from 20-
40 feet. She said that he said the tree roots would grow toward the pump and damage it.
Ms. Calland said that's when she had the trees removed. She said the tree removal
company told her she didn't need a permit since the trees were smaller than the
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requirement. Ms. Calland said she was caring for her husband who had dementia and
figured she would deal with the trees later. She explained that she applied for a pool
permit which led to the City's discovery of the tree's being removed. Ms. Calland said
she planted the crepe myrtles because they have shallow roots. She said the builder went
too low to connect to the city sewer, so the holding tank was installed in the front yard
to catch the sewage and pump it into the City pipes.
PUBLIC COMMENT: Chair Hansen opened the floor to public comment.
John Finotti of 391 8th Street introduced himself. He said he has lived in Atlantic Beach
for 34 years and asked for the Board to approve this request. Mr. Finotti explained that
Mr. Calland was navy seal, served in the CIA and was a hero.
James White of 329 8th Street introduced himself. He said the crepe myrtles look
beautiful. Mr. White urged the Board to approve this request.
Marisa Carbone of 391 8th Street introduced herself. She said it is important to know
the person behind the request and shared a little about Cindy and her husband. Ms.
Carbone spoke in favor of approving this request.
Deb White of 329 8th Street introduced herself. She spoke in favor of the approval of
this request.
Bruce Andrews, ESC Tree Subcommittee Chair introduced himself. He explained the
intent of the Tree Code and said they have worked hard on incentivizing people to plant
trees. Mr. Andrews was disappointed in the arborist letter that stated infrastructure,
which every homeowner in the City has, would be compromised (pipes, electrical and
outgoing sewer). He said there are trees that can be planted that have smaller root
systems. Mr. Andrews said he is not in favor of the approval of this variance.
Ms. Calland said she looks up every tree on the list to see what kind of root systems they
had. She said the manufacturers of various pumps all recommends trees be 30 plus feet
away from the pump. Ms. Calland felt like she did ask all the right questions.
Anastasia Houston of the ESC Subcommittee introduced herself. She felt like this was
an easy fix and couldn't understand why at least 1 shade tree couldn't be planted. Ms.
Houston encouraged the Board to look at the reasons to approve or deny. She said she
didn't see a reason for approval of this request.
BOARD DISCUSSION: Ms. Lagner said that she has dealt with tree roots, the damage
they cause, and the cost incurred. She spoke in favor of the approval of this request. Ms.
Golombek said she was torn due to the pump issue but thought there were some trees
that could be planted. She wasn't sure of how she would vote. Mr. Gear agreed that at
least one shade tree should be planted. Mr. Arthur asked if the variance request was to
not have to plant 2 shade trees. Planner Genest said it was for both. Ms. Farford asked
if there was an exception for threat to property or life and if that would apply. Planner
Genest said that Staff found the arborist letter did not meet that section of the Tree Code
that speaks about diseased or dead trees and that is why they told the applicant to apply
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for a variance. Director Askew reminded the Board that there are grounds for approval
in Chapter 23 and Chapter 24 since the applicant is applying for a variance from both.
Mr. Arthur said that he was taking into consideration the arborist letter and the pump in
the front yard. Chair Hansen said the arborist letter was important to him because he
didn't want to do something that the arborist stated could be a problem.
MOTION: To APPROVE ZVAR24-0011 based on Chapter 23 grounds for approval #2
"Existing electrical lines or utility easements that prevent or restrict the preservation or planting
of landscape materials" and Chapter 24 grounds for approval #3 "Exceptional circumstances
preventing the reasonable use of the property as compared to other properties in the area".
Motion: Jennifer Lagner
Second. Richard Arthur
Kirk Hansen
For
Jennifer Lagner (Moved By)
For
Angela Farford
For
Harold Gear
Against
Richard Arthur (Seconded By)
For
Ellen Golombek
Against
Gregory (Greg) Beliles
For
Motion passed 5 to Z
D. 25 Sailfish Drive UBEX24-0006 (David Wood)
Request for a use -by -exception for a tattoo studio to replace an existing tattoo studio
within the shopping plaza at 25 Sailfish Drive.
STAFF REPORT: Planner Genest presented the information as explained i n the staff
report. She also provided a PowerPoint presentation.
APPLICANT REPORT: David Wood introduced himself as the applicant. He
explained that he has been working at the tattoo shop for 15 years. Mr. Wood said the
previous owner is moving and he was going to take over the shop. He said there weren't
going to be any changes.
PUBLIC COMMENT: Chair Hansen opened the floor to public comment.
Shawn Roden introduced himself as the previous owner. He spoke in favor of Mr. Wood
and would like to see the request approved.
Terri Derkum introduced herself as the accountant for the business. She is in favor of
the approval of this request.
BOARD DISCUSSION: There was no discussion.
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4.
MOTION. To APPROVE UBEX24-0006 based on all 3 conditions for approval.
Motion: Ellen Golombek
Second. Harold Gear
Kirk Hansen
For
Jennifer Lagner
For
Angela Farford
For
Harold Gear (Seconded By)
For
Richard Arthur
For
Ellen Golombek (Moved By)
For
Gregory (Greg) Beliles
For
Motion passed 7 to 0.
PUBLIC COMMENT
Chair Hansen opened the floor to public comment.
Brinkley Harrell, 260 6th Street, introduced himself. He said that he had spoken to the City
Commission regarding the stormwater requirements in Chapter 24 in previous meetings. Mr.
Harrell said he watched the CDB video from July 16 and saw that they had voted on 3 of the 4
stormwater topics. He explained that some people are using the term pervious, and some are
using permeable. Mr. Harrell said that professionals told him to use the word permeable, but
that word doesn't show up in any of the Code. He thought the Board should clarify which word
to use and its meaning. Mr. Harrell went through the different items in the minutes regarding
Chapter 24 and went over them one by one. He said that the CDB voted to remove the one-time
exemption, but it wasn't showing up in tonight's recommendations. Mr. Harrell questioned the
change from 4 1/2 inch to 7 inch pool freeboard as discussed in earlier meetings. He thought
the credit for pools should be 100% and is being listed as 75%. Mr. Harrell said the percentages
are arbitrary unless relating to infinity pools or pools with covers. He said there were
recommendations from the CDB that were stormwater in the minutes but are not reflected in the
redline portion of 24-68 or 24-17.
Sarah Boren, Chair of the ESC introduced herself. She said ESC ruled that there is zero
environmental benefit with artificial turf, and they hope it is banned from usage. Ms. Boren
spoke about the 8th Street tree variance request that was previously approved earlier on the
agenda. She said 8th Street has little shade and is a very hot street. Ms. Boren said there were
options to move the trees around, move the shed and other solutions to consider. She said that
the ESC Board is waiting for Chapter 24 to pass so they can move forward with Chapter 23.
Ms. Boren said they are looking at removing a couple loopholes, one being the loophole that
you can remove a mitigation tree.
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5. REPORTS
A. Environmental Stewardship Committee (ESC) Presentation and Report (Bruce
Andrews, Chair of ESC tree subcommittee)
Bruce Andrews expressed his disappointment in the approval of the 8th Street variance
request stating that there were other trees that could have been planted on the other side
of the driveway. He provided a PowerPoint presentation with an overview of Chapter
23. Mr. Andrews explained that the ESC previews tree permit applications, educates the
public, makes recommendations to Staff and Commission in an effort to prevent the
destruction of the tree canopy. There was discussion about regulated and unregulated
trees, tree appeals, mitigation, etc.
The Board asked how many trees are being lost each year without permits. Sarah Boren
said they don't really know the exact number but based on the arborist letters they are
losing about 100 trees a year without arborist letters. She said they get about 50 permits
a year but they don't know how many are lost in storms or how many are taken down
without a permit. Ms. Boren said it's the mature trees that they worry about since it takes
about 25 plus years for a planted tree to develop. She asked the Board to think about
ways to incentivize people to keep their trees when doing a new build or a rebuild.
6. OLD BUSINESS
A. Chapter 24 update
(Formal recommendation from CDB on Sept.17th & First Read by Commission on
Sept. 23rd)
Chair Hansen asked why the pool percentage changed and whether it was recommended
by the City Commission. Director Askew went over the history of meetings regarding
Chapter 24. She said that at the last Commission meeting they discussed the stormwater
recommendations listed in the proposed changes. Director Askew presented the
recommendations from the ESC regarding permeable pavers and artificial turf. She went
over the proposed redlined changes in Chapter 24. The Board was conflicted on who
made what recommendations. It was concluded that Staff would provide the Board with
a document that lists their recommendations as listed in the minutes of the July 16
meeting. Mr. Arthur asked if Staff had recommendations. Director Askew said she was
waiting for an updated stormwater master plan study to draw from. She said there are
concerns regarding the long-term permeability of permeable pavers if they are not
maintained properly. Mr. Arthur was still concerned that Atlantic Beach is the only city
in the State of Florida that requires stormwater retention. There was further discussion
about having Staff bring back a document that has everything that the Board agreed upon
at the July meeting. Ms. Lagner said she was frustrated with the stormwater process
after hearing residents bring it up time and again, but the can just gets kicked down the
road and it doesn't get addressed. She said that the City has had the same stormwater fee
calculation for 20 years and asked if that was going to be addressed. Director Askew
said there are discussions regarding increasing the stormwater fees. She said that Staff
agrees that there are stormwater problems, sea level rise and frequency of flooding.
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7.
Attest:
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further discussion, Chair Hansen declared the meeting adjourned at 9:13 p.m.
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