03-12-07MINUTES
REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING
March 12, 2007
CITY HALL, 800 SEMINOLE ROAD
Attendance IN ATTENDANCE:
Mayor Donald Wolfson
Mayor Pro Tem J. Dezmond Waters III City Attorney Alan C. Jensen
Commissioner Jamie Fletcher City Manager Jim Hanson
Commissioner Sylvia N. Simmons City Clerk Donna L. Bussey
ABSENT:
Commissioner Mike Borno
Call to Order/Pledge Mayor Wolfson called the meeting to order at 7:15 p.m. The Pledge of Allegiance to
the Flag followed the Invocation, given by Commissioner Waters.
Mayor Wolfson welcomed the audience and explained the process for public
comments.
Mayor Wolfson explained Item 8B will be taken out of sequence and acted on after the
Approval of the Minutes and before Courtesy of the Floor to Visitors.
Approval of Minutes 1. Approval of the minutes of the Regular Commission Meeting on
February 26, 2007.
Motion: Aaarove the minutes of the Regular Commission Meeting on
February 26.2007 as written.
Moved by Fletcher, seconded by Waters.
Votes:
Aye: 4 -Fletcher, Simmons, Waters, Wolfson
Nay: 0
MOTION CARRIED
Item 8B was taken out of sequence and addressed at this time
Action on Transmittal B. Public hearing to consider transmittal to the Department of Community Affairs
(taken out of sequence) of proposed semi-annual amendments to the 2015 Comprehensive Plan,
including one proposed amendment to the Future Land Use Map, described as
follows:
Request from Selva Marina Country Club, Inc. to amend the 2015 Future Land
Use Map to re-designate approximately 27.34 acres from Recreation and Open
Space (R/O) to Residential, Low Density (RL) for property located at 1600
Selva Marina Drive. The anticipated future project is redevelopment of the
Selva Marina Country Club golf course and club facilities and new residential
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use. No zoning change or specific plan of development is under consideration
at this time.
Mayor Wolfson asked Community Development Director Sonya Doerr to summarize
the process. Ms. Doerr presented a slide on the future land use designation and
explained the transmittal process. Mayor Wolfson opened the floor to the public.
David Sliwinski, 1641 Linkside Drive North, representing Selva Linkside II
Homeowners Association, stated they were not opposed to the Selva Marina sale and
potential development of the acreage, but they are concerned about how the acreage
will be developed.
Dave Estes, 1275 Linkside Drive, stated he is in opposition to the land use change
because it is not consistent with the Atlantic Beach 2015 Comprehensive Plan.
Christa Figgins 1637 Linkside Drive West, expressed opposition to the Selva Marina
development.
Mike Diaz, 1170 Seminole Road, expressed support for the Selva Marina Country
Club land use change.
Dee Deese Reiter, 1798 Selva Marina Drive, stated she supports the recommendation
for the Selva Marina Country Club land use change.
Mark Erman, 1645 Linkside Court North, stated he is in opposition to the proposed
land use change.
Jo Geeslin, 695 Selva Lakes Circle, stated she supports the land use change.
Kirsten Sabia, 38310`h Street, stated she is in favor of the land use change.
Mike Freed, 76 S. Laura Street, #2110, Jacksonville, attorney for a group of
homeowners in Selva Linkside II, stated his clients are against the land use change and
asked that the Commission deny the request.
Joseph Meehan, 1243 Linkside Drive, stated he is in opposition to the proposed land
use change.
Maria Mark, 1148 Linkside Drive, reading on behalf of George Garcia, 640 Ocean
Blvd., spoke in support of the club's request for the land use change.
Michael Kring, 1580 Selva Marina Drive, stated he is in opposition to the land use
change.
Margaret Kring, 1580 Selva Marina Drive, referring to the 2015 Comprehensive
Plan, strongly urged the Commission to leave the subject land as recreation.
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Matt Jackson, 76 S. Laura Street, #2110, Jacksonville, attorney retained to represent
several member of Selva Linkside II, stated his clients are opposed to irresponsible
development.
Harold Echols, 1677 Linkside Court North, stated he believes this proposed plan
violates the Comprehensive Plan and spoke in opposition to the development.
John Radcliff, 1921 Sevilla Blvd. West, stated he is in support of the land use change
and the redevelopment of Selva Marina Country Club.
Pat Pillmore, 995 Camelia Street, spoke in opposition to the land use change.
Jim Bishop, 1821 Sea Oats Drive, spoke in support of the redevelopment of Selva
Marina Country Club.
Douglas Speed, Jr., 1207 Seminole Road, stated he is in support of the land use
change.
Allan Ennis, 1865 Live Oak Lane, representing Selva Marina Country Club, spoke in
support of the application for land use change.
Paul Hardin, 1301 Riverplace Blvd., representing the Selva Marina Country Club,
spoke in support of the application for land use change.
No one else from the audience spoke so the Mayor closed the floor to the public.
Commissioner Waters revealed he owns a share of stock in the Selva Marina Country
Club and deferred to City Attorney Alan Jensen whether he should be allowed to vote.
Mr. Jensen stated Florida Statutes require Commissioner Waters to vote unless he has a
voting conflict, i.e. as result of his vote something would inure to his special private
gain or loss. Mr. Jensen reported case law states gain has to be something that is direct
and immediate, not something that might happen in the future or that might be
speculative. Mr. Jensen believes, from all the information received and presented this
evening, there would be no direct gain to any of the shazeholders of the Country Club.
Motion: Direct staff to transmit to the Department of Community Affairs in
accordance Section 163.3184, 163.3187 and 163 3189 Florida Statutes Application
File Number CPA-2007-01 Selva Marina Country Club Inc a proposed amendment
to the 2015 Future Land Use Map from Recreation/Open Space (R/O) to Residential
Low Density (RL), for lands as described within said application subject to the
following conditions.
Within thirty (30) days of any action to approve transmittal of this proposed
amendment, the Applicant shall provide a traffic study prepared by
professionals certified to perform such work verifying that the proposed
development does not exceed a di minimus transportation impact as defined by
Chapter 163.3180 (6), Florida Statutes and Rule 9J-5 Florida Administrative Code
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Number of units to be permitted during any subsequent rezoning application
shall not exceed this threshold.
• T_he traffic study shall also address consistency with the 2005 Hurricane
Evacuation Study as prepared by the Northeast Florida Regional Planning
Council and potential for impacts to the Duval County Evacuation Network
• Notwithstanding the precedinu condition the number of residential units shall
be determined as part of any future rezoning_process and shall be based upon a
determination by the Citv Commission that the s ecific plan of development is
compatible with surrounding residential development and applicable land
development regulations in effect at the time of rezoning application
and upon finding,
1. The proposed amendment has been fully considered after public hearings
pursuant to legal notice duly published as required by law
2. The proposed Future Land Use Map Amendment is consistent with the City of
Atlantic Beach Comprehensive Plan Ordinance No 31-04-04 as adopted and
amended; Florida Statutes (Chapter 163 Part II)• and Rule 9J-5 Florida
Administrative Code as these relate to the adoption of Comprehensive Plan
amendments.
3. The proposed amendment preserves internal consistency with the adopted 2015
Comprehensive Plan.
4. Proposed residential use is compatible with surrounding residential use where
"compatibility" means a condition in which land uses or conditions can coexist
in relative proximity to each other in a stable fashion over time such that no use
or condition is unduly negatively impacted directly or indirectly by another use
or condition. 9J-5.003/23) FAC
Moved by Simmons, seconded by Waters.
Commissioner Waters questioned Mr. Ennis, should this come to fruition, if people
make sacrifices by having to give up their views, additional traffic, what will the
community get in return for allowing the loss of this recreational space? He stated
Atlantic Beach could give up its control of the last intercity recreational area, and if the
Club fails, the community has nothing but a new development. Mr. Ennis stated
Atlantic Beach is faced with that dilemma today without the action. Mr. Ennis stated
two-thirds of the shareholders must approve any change in any particular operation of
the Club or to sell any land. He stated the shareholders have only given the Board of
Directors authority to sell up to 35 acres of this land. Mr. Ennis stated they have
evaluated the viability of the Club to see if this demographic area can support it and
they believe it can, with the right facilities. He stated people have shown up at the Club
and chosen not to join because of the facilities presently at the Club. Mr. Ennis stated
he does not believe they would be making these steps today if they did not believe in
the ability of the Club to sustain itself in the long term, with significant improvements.
Commissioner Waters asked that Mr. Ennis relay to the Board and stockholders of
Selva Marina Country Club that the City does not take the concession lightly, but
believes Selva Marina is essential in providing a great deal of open space to the City
and, if viable, is a financial asset to the City.
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Commissioner Fletcher asked Ms. Doerr if this decision to transmit the amendment
approves any specific plan for this site. Ms. Doerr stated nothing is being approved
tonight; the Commission is considering only the land use change, no specific type or
form of development at all. Commissioner Fletcher questioned whether the decision
tonight ratifies any multi-use family units for that property. Ms. Doerr stated no.
Commissioner Fletcher questioned whether there would be further public hearings from
this Commission and the Community Development Board regarding this amendment;
specific zoning for this property, if the Commission approves the amendment; and any
PUD plans that might be proffered. Ms. Doerr stated yes. Commissioner Fletcher
stated we are approving transmittal to the Department of Community Affairs of a land
use amendment with no idea of what the land will be used for. He asked Ms. Doerr if
that is common for Commissions and Councils. Ms. Doerr stated that is very common.
She stated within the parameters of the process we are looking at now, you are moving
towards an adoption phase to change it from recreation and open space to residential
low density only. Commissioner Fletcher questioned what the safeguards are regarding
the issues about wetlands, multi-family, 1 - 6 units, etc., if the Commission approves
the transmittal not knowing any plan. Ms. Doerr stated the ultimate safeguard is that
they are not yet at the adoption of this plan amendment and by the time they get to the
adoption hearing they will be reviewing the proposed zoning, whether through a PUD
or zoning category and the specific plan of development before a decision is made at a
public hearing. If we adopt the land use comp plan amendment, it still goes back to
DCA for review of any changes made and they will issue a Notice of Intent that it is
either in compliance with state law and our comp plan or not. Commissioner Fletcher
asked, for clarification, if the Commission approves this transmittal tonight in the
proposed phase, after it comes back with the ORC report, could the Commission deny
the amendment at that point? Ms. Doerr stated that was correct. She stated we will
have the ORC report mid-way through that process and they will begin the zoning
review process. Commissioner Fletcher questioned whether any City can demand
financial statements from private C Corporations. Mr. Jensen stated you can't demand
them, but you can ask for them. Commissioner Fletcher stated that Mr. Hardin or the
City cannot guarantee that it will always be a golf course. He questioned whether the
City can demand a reverter clause. Mr. Jensen stated the government cannot demand
conditions be placed on private property. Fletcher questioned Ms. Doerr whether all
the issues that have been brought up, including wetlands, environmentally sensitive
lands, protected species, tree issues, transportation concurrency and street use, storm
water retention, will be reviewed by state agencies in the ORC report. Ms. Doerr stated
that was correct, except for concurrency, but traffic impact will be. Fletcher stated the
Northeast Florida Regional Planning Council will review concurrency. Ms. Doerr
agreed they will look at transportation related issues. Commissioner Fletcher
questioned whether, at the adoption phase, the Commission can look at any one of these
issues and deny the amendment. Ms. Doerr stated they can deny adoption, if there is
information presented in those reports or that we obtained during this process that leads
to an appropriate decision to deny final adoption. Regarding traffic study,
Commissioner Fletcher questioned whether we have the right to demand they complete
another traffic study from a traffic engineer that the City of Atlantic Beach hires to get
an objective report. Mr. Jensen stated no. Ms. Doerr stated that is why the language is
included that they must use someone professionally certified. Commissioner Fletcher
questioned whether he as a Commissioner needs to be absolutely certain that this
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amendment is completely consistent with the comprehensive plan at this proposed
phase to vote to transmit. Ms. Doerr stated no. Mr. Jensen agreed. Ms. Doerr stated
the Statutes require that the comprehensive plan be considered as a whole and make a
policy decision based on the entire plan, and that is why the finding that if you are
going to change your plan you should maintain internal consistency with the plan.
Commissioner Fletcher questioned what if he isn't 100% certain tonight that it is
consistent, i.e. he doesn't know if there are endangered species on the land. Mr. Doerr
stated she is going to request that Fish and Wildlife review this. Mayor Wolfson stated
that there are three choices, you vote in favor, in opposition, or vote to defer for further
due diligence. Commissioner Fletcher questioned whether an applicant can reapply in
six months. Ms. Doerr stated comp plan amendments can only be transmitted twice a
year.
Mayor Wolfson asked, for clarification, if this Commission, by majority, decides
during the proper timeline to deny the request, then the transmission has not set in
motion any action that is irreversible to the comp plan that we presently have in place.
Ms. Doerr stated that was correct.
Commissioner Simmons stated she has been through similar land use changes in both
the comp plan and subsequent zoning changes and it is very frustrating for all of us.
She stated it is fiustrating to be making comp plan changes before you have seen a plan
and thinks that is the angst of very many people here tonight. She would probably find
herself unable to vote if we didn't have some of these various steps built in that
Commissioner Fletcher pointed out through his questioning. It demonstrated there are
many places along the line where we can ask questions and if we don't get the answers
we like we can act accordingly. She stated she has a record of doing that in the past.
Mayor Wolfson stated he is not a member of the Selva Marina Country Club and owns
no shares. He was a member of the Club 15 years ago. He believes the issues the Club
faces today are the same issues they faced fifteen years ago when he was a member.
He believes what has changed is the Club senses they are in a position of desperation,
but does not know that for sure. If that is indeed the case, he believes those financials
would be best presented to the Commission for their understanding of how significant
the concern is of the leadership of the Club. Secondly, he noted the City Attorney has
specifically raised the issue, is low-density residential use of the 27 acres consistent
with the City's comp plan. He stated the comp plan is the roadmap for the future of
this City and if we don't submit the comp plan and don't amend it according to Florida
Statute, we are in jeopardy of violations. Once the City changes the 27 acres, it is no
longer a part of the Club; it becomes a part of the residential neighborhood of the City
of Atlantic Beach. The rest of the Club is in the City of Jacksonville. Not having the
details, the Commission is not sure what it is but they are certain the financial
leadership of the Club is asking that in order for that Club to survive financially, this is
what is necessary. There are no assurances this Club will survive. He stated he has
heard from the leadership of the Club in meetings, public forums, and through the
members telling us they want to whatever is in their power to perpetuate the Club in
some form of golf club, tennis courts, and swimming pool, but there is no assurance
that will happen. His concern is what will happen if the Club takes its best shot and
fails. That is a potential problem for this community. When 15 years ago this club
asked the membership to please step forward and make contributions to upgrade the
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facilities they did it. Now if the Club doesn't raise the money, they are telling us they
will go under. Mayor Wolfson questioned Mr. Ennis if this isn't granted are there other
opportunities there for the Club to perpetuate. Mr. Ennis stated he believes this gives
them the best chance for success. Mr. Ennis stated there are certainly many options to
explore, but he believes that every option to explore provides greater risk to the Club's
success. If the Commission denies this application it will only add risk to that equation
and they will certainly continue to fight, but it will make the fight harder.
Mayor Wolfson stated Selva Marina Country Club would have options with the City of
Jacksonville that the Commission has no control over. He stated his concerns are what
happens to the rest of the acreage because that could adversely impact the community,
being an adjacent municipality to the City of Jacksonville. He stated he is concerned
about the relinquishment of an open area that has been recreation for many years. He
stated he is not convinced that this is what is in the best interest of the citizens. He
stated the Commission needs to continue doing due diligence and offering suggestions
for possibilities of what the Club can do in the future to protect it for the duration.
Mayor Wolfson questioned whether the ceiling would be 1281ots and Mr. Ennis stated
yes. The Mayor stated he is comfortable with the transmittal but not comfortable with
any ideas on this yet because he hasn't seen enough. He wants to keep his options open
to either oppose this, support it, or offer an alternative. Mayor Wolfson clarified that,
before calling the vote, this is a noncommittal on the Commission and can be
withdrawn throughout the process.
Votes:
Aye: 4 -Fletcher, Simmons, Waters, Wolfson
Nay: 0
MOTION CARRIED
Mayor Wolfson called alive-minute adjournment at 9:30 pm. The meeting
reconvened at 9:40 pm.
Courtesy of the Floor 2. Courtesy of the Floor to Visitors.
Mayor Wolfson opened the floor to visitors and explained the process for public
comments.
Pat Pitlmore, 995 Camelia Street, asked that the City look into hiring a City Planner.
She also reported on the Wonderwood speed limit and medians on Mayport Road, and
stated she supports the sanitation plan.
Lori Armstrong, 400 Garden Lane, operates business at 987 Atlantic Blvd., stated
she is opposed to Code Section 24-154, which prohibits displaying anything in front of
your store, and is seeking a proposed amendment to allow a small display in front of
stores. Commissioner Fletcher asked for clarification of the Code and asked to staff to
look into it and report on it. Commissioner Simmons stated there are businesses who
display on their own rental area, such as some of the ones in Town Center and in the
Ocean 60 building, which is not considered sidewalk space.
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Gail Lee, Gail's Boutique, 469-11 Atlantic Blvd., expressed opposition to City Code
Sec. 24-154 and asked for the consideration of the Commission.
Bernard Kane, 333 Ocean Boulevard, expressed his appreciation for the construction
of the 3rd Street dune overpass.
Evan Ogin, 528 Royal Palms Drive, stated he is in opposition to the Sanitation Plan
being changed to once a week pick-up.
Bernard Kane, 333 Ocean Boulevard, spoke in opposition to the Sanitation Plan
being changed to once a week pick-up and asked what citizens aze supposed to do
about recycling, yard waste, large appliances, etc.
No one else in the audience spoke and Mayor Wolfson closed the public portion of the
courtesy of the floor to visitors.
Unfinished Business 3. Unfmished Business from Previous Meeting
from Previous
Meeting A. City Manager's Follow-up Report
City Manager Jim Hanson reported on the breakdown of the 2006 Drug Related
Chazges provided by Chief Thompson.
Additionally, in response to Mr. Kane's comments on the Sanitation Plan, Mr. Hanson
reported: (1) yellow bags are no longer being considered for trash pick-up but excess
bags that will not fit in the toters will be allowed to be put out and will be picked up at
the same time; (2) new larger recycling bins will be delivered by the hauler before June
1, 2007; (3) large appliances will be picked up by a separate truck; (4) elderly/
handicapped persons who cannot roll the can to the street will be put on a list and the
sanitation drivers will go to the side of their house and get the bins for them; and (5) the
change to once a week saves money and it will have all the garbage, recycling and yard
trash collected in one day by zone.
Commissioner Simmons pointed out that there are also smaller cans available for those
who don't generate a lot of gazbage. Mr. Hanson explained that there were sample cans
outside the Chamber for people to try out.
Public Works Director Rick Carper stated they need to know by April 13 if citizens
want a smaller can. Commissioner Simmons stated there was no way they would have
any idea which size can they will want. Mr. Hanson stated there was a press release on
this but agreed that they will have to make some assumptions on the number of smaller
cans.
Consent Agenda 4. Consent Agenda
ALL MATTERS LISTED UNDER THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE
CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE BY THE CITY COMMISSION AND WILL BE
ENACTED BY ONE MOTION IN THE FORM LISTED BELOW. THERE WILL
BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION OF THESE ITEMS. IF DISCUSSION IS
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DESIRED, THAT ITEM WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT
AGENDA AND WILL BE CONSIDERED SEPARATELY. SUPPORTING
DOCUMENTATION AND STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE BEEN
PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED TO THE CITY COMMISSION ON THESE ITEMS.
A. Acknowledge receipt of Monthly Building Department Report, Public Works
and Public Utilities Report and Local Business Tax Receipts for February 2007.
B. Approve the list of property as surplus to the City of Atlantic Beach.
C. Extend contract for Ditch Spraying and Maintenance for another year with
Bluewater Environmental of Florida, Inc. at the current prices ($20,928.00).
Motion: Auurove Consent Agenda Items as read
Moved by Fletcher, seconded by Simmons.
Votes:
Aye: 4 -Fletcher, Simmons, Waters, Wolfson
Nay: 0
MOTION CARRIED
Committee Reports 5. Committee Reports
None
Action on Resolutions 6. Action on Resolutions
None
Action on Ordinances 7. Action on Ordinances
A. Ordinance No. 20-07-83, Public Hearing and Final Reading
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE OPERATING BUDGET FOR THE
CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLORIDA FOR FISCAL YEAR
BEGINNING OCTOBER 1, 2006 AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 2007.
Mayor Wolfson opened the floor to the public hearing.
No one from the audience spoke so the Mayor closed the public hearing.
Motion: Auurove Ordinance No. 20-07-83 as read.
Moved by Waters, seconded by Fletcher.
Votes:
Aye: 4 -Fletcher, Simmons, Waters, Wolfson
Nay: 0
MOTION CARRIED
B. Ordinance No. 55-07-31, Introduction and First Reading
AN ORDINANCE REPEALING IN ITS ENTIRETY CHAPTER 16, SOLID
WASTE AND RECYCLING, OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE OF ORDINANCES
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OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLORIDA; ESTABLISHING A NEW
CHAPTER 16 AND ESTABLISHING AN EFFECTIVE DATE
Motion: Approve Ordinance No. 55-07-31 on first reading as presented
Moved by Simmons, seconded by Waters.
Mayor Wolfson commented that there has been very little opposition and the only
concern he has heard is regarding the number of pick-ups. He stated after discussion
with the hauler and staff, the Commission has determined this should not be a problem.
Commissioner Fletcher stated the statistics supplied by Mr. Carper were very helpful
and, per the numbers, believes the garbage can be picked up effectively in just one day
a week. He stated this will provide for a cleaner environment and reduces costs to the
citizens. He believes this semi-automated trash pick-up is really best for the City.
Commissioner Simmons stated that over 70% of the garbage was picked up on the first
day of pick-up on a two-day pick-up per week, with a much smaller amount picked up
on the second day, so it isn't like it is 50 - 50 and you really are going to lose a lot of
garbage pick-up on that second day.
Commissioner Waters stated he has a few non-material changes and will turn them in.
Votes:
Aye: 4 -Fletcher, Simmons, Waters, Wolfson
Nay: 0
MOTION CARRIED
Miscellaneous S. Miscellaneous Business
Business
A. (Pubic Hearing) Request from Ruth M. Thomas for a waiver from Section 24-
255 (a) of the Subdivision Regulations seeking approval to create two lots that
are less than 75-feet in width and less than 7,500 square feet in Lot Area and
that are also less than the 75-foot width and 7,500 square feet requirements of
the RS-2 Zoning District for property at 343/345 Second Street.
Mayor Wolfson opened the floor to the public.
R.D. DeCarle, 51 Beach Avenue, spoke in favor of the request for changing the use of
this property.
No one else from the audience spoke so the Mayor closed the floor to the public.
Carol-Anne Hallam, 3625 Scioto Ct., Green Cove Springs, daughter of Ruth
Thomas, asked for the Commission's consideration to allow her mother the option to
create two lots that will be 50 feet wide each so it will be easier for her to sell her
property.
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Ruth M. Thomas, 345 Second Street, stated since the death of her husband she will
have to sell her home and move nearer her daughter and asked for the Commission's
consideration in this matter.
Mayor Wolfson asked Ms. Doerr to express the staff's findings. Ms. Doerr stated this
is similaz to other requests they have had over the past four or five years and none of
those requests have been approved. She explained the RS2 District requires a 75 feet
wide by 100 feet deep lot. She stated that this lot meets the depth requirement, but the
proposed lots would not meet the 75 feet width, nor the 7500 s.f. requirement of the
subdivision regulations for new lots.
Referring to Section 24-106 (d), Ms. Hallam stated there is a provision that states
existing legally established lots of record may exist which do not meet the above
requirements. It states these lots may be developed subject to all applicable land
development regulations. She pointed out that this is not a new neighborhood, not a
new request for land that has never been platted, it is simply keeping it in character
with the neighborhood as it now exists and many of those homes have these lot
dimensions and she asked that the Commission keep that in consideration.
Mayor Wolfson asked Ms. Hallam where the 10 feet aze located on the property that
was given back to the City. Ms. Hallam stated there is a 10 ft. easement on the survey.
Commissioner Simmons asked to know more about the missing 10 ft. Ms. Hallam
stated there aze many homes on Second Street that have the same easement. Mayor
Wolfson asked staff for explanation. Ms. Doerr stated the property survey is 140 ft.
deep by 100 ft. wide and she does not believe the easement has any bearing on the plat.
Mayor Wolfson stated the easement is on the street side, not the reaz side. Ms. Hallam
stated it is part of the street and only one side of the street gave up the 10 ft., the other
side did not. Commissioner Simmons stated Mr. Jensen pointed out to her that the
legal lot is 140 ft. deep.
Motion: Deny request for waiver from Section 24-255 (a) of the Subdivision
Regulations for property at 343/345 Second Street
Moved by Fletcher, seconded by Simmons.
Commissioner Fletcher stated that at some point the City has to clean up these land
messes and he is leery about setting precedence of waiving subdivision requirements.
He asked Ms. Doerr if there is a duplex on the property and it was divided into two lots,
couldn't they put two duplexes on each lot if they fit. Mr. Doerr stated no, it would not
be large enough to meet the comp plan density.
Commissioner Simmons stated that while no cases like this have been approved in the
past four years, there have been cases like this. She stated during the previous
Commission, she had an almost identical case and the previous Commission, with no
discussion, voted unanimously to deny that request. She also stated, in terms of size,
because of the new community chazacter ordinance with a .60, there could be the same
amount of building structure, whether it is one lot or two. She stated this would set a
precedence in not standing up for the City's Codes.
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Votes:
Aye: 2 -Fletcher, Simmons
Nay: 2 -Waters, Wolfson
MOTION FAILED
Motion: Approve request for waiver from Section 24-255 (a) of the Subdivision
Resulations for property at 343/345 Second Street
Moved by Wolfson, seconded by Waters.
Mayor Wolfson explained he would like to see this kept as single family instead of a
duplex, which is why he made the motion against staff's recommendation.
Commissioner Waters stated this is an old neighborhood that was laid out with 50 ft.
lots, so turning this back into two (2) fifty foot lots is not an awful thing to do and is
definitely in keeping with the character of the way the original land was laid out.
Commissioner Fletcher asked Mr. Jensen what is the weight of precedent here since
none of these waivers have been approved in the past four years. Mr. Jensen stated we
should look at this issue because what the are asking for makes a lot of sense, but
there was almost an identical request on 8 Street that came to this Commission and
was denied. Commissioner Fletcher asked Mr. Jensen why, legally, aze they all denied,
to which Mr. Jensen replied the Ordinance requires that newly platted lots have at least
75 ft. width by 150 ft. depth for a total of 7500 s.f. Mr. Jensen stated if this
Commission were to approve this waiver now, having denied one a year ago that was
virtually identical, those prior people might come after the City in a lawsuit.
Commissioner Fletcher agreed and said we have got to hold the line at some point.
After discussion, Mayor Wolfson and Commissioner Waters withdrew their motion and
second.
Motion: Defer to next meeting when there is a full commission
Moved by Waters, seconded by Fletcher (Note: After discussion, Fletcher withdrew his
second; Mayor Wolfson seconded.)
Ms. Doerr stated they can fully expect by next meeting to have other applications
because this has been an ongoing and consistent process and those other applicants will
be back. Mayor Wolfson stated he would like to go back and look at the last one they
denied. Commissioner Simmons stated she did not believe that was this Commission.
Commissioner Waters stated the last one this Commission did was on Frozio on Club
Drive. Mr. Jensen stated he thought the Brown property on 8~' Street came before this
Commission.
Commissioner Fletcher said he is withdrawing his second because he is too leery of
opening up the box. They have to continue to close the box. Mayor Wolfson seconded
the Motion to defer and called a vote.
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Votes:
Aye: 2 -Waters, Wolfson
Nay: 2 -Fletcher, Simmons
MOTION FAILED
Mr. Jensen stated that procedurally the Commission has not taken any action. The
motion to deny the waiver failed, the motion to defer failed, there have been no other
motions acted on. Mr. Jensen stated that the Commission has to act on the item.
Commissioner Fletcher asked for a recommendation from counsel. Mr. Jensen
recommended they defer to next meeting when they have a full Commission.
Commissioner Simmons disagreed. Commissioner Fletcher asked for clarification that
they have to take action on this issue tonight. Mr. Jensen stated the Commission has to
take action on the request for the waiver, but it doesn't have to be tonight. Mayor
Wolfson questioned Ms. Doerr whether the motion to approve is consistent with the
comp plan and is the motion to deny consistent with the comp plan. Ms. Doerr
explained that the proposed lot sizes would meet the lot requirement for asingle-family
residence on each lot. She stated it is a subdivision and zoning district regulation that it
doesn't meet the requirement for a '7500 s.f. lot. Mayor Wolfson stated that the density
is the same whether someone wants to build a duplex or two homes. Ms. Doerr stated
you cannot put more than two units on a piece of property. Mayor Wolfson stated that
was correct so the density does not become an issue unless someone wants to build a
single family home on a large lot or two single-family homes on two smaller lots.
That's the only time there is a density issue here. Ms. Doerr stated that was correct.
Mayor Wolfson stated that means it would be consistent with the comp plan. Ms.
Doerr agreed.
Mayor Wolfson stated the Commission is in a quandary. Commissioner Fletcher
referred to the staff report that states there is a significant number of very large oak
trees which canopy over the property and any action that would serve to support
destruction of this tree canopy would be inconsistent with the stated objectives of the
City's comp plan. Commissioner Fletcher believes it might be in line with the
character but he is extremely concerned about the legal precedent. Mayor Wolfson
stated he is concerned also and does not want to open up an opportunity for litigation.
Ms. Doerr stated the City needs to be consistent. Commissioner Fletcher stated if we
are not happy with that, then change the policy legislatively. Commissioner Waters
stated waivers exist to be waivers, you don't change policies because you grant a
waiver, nor is anyone entitled to a waiver just because you gave the waiver to someone
else. In the case of the Fozios, they were not in a medium density, they were in low
density residential. Commissioner Simmons stated the one on Eighth Street was core
city, medium density and that was denied. Mayor Wolfson stated Eighth Street is
single-family residential, not medium density.
Motion: Approve request to waiver from Section 24-255 (a) of the Subdivision
Regulations for property at 343/345 Second Street.
Moved by Simmons, seconded by Wolfson. (Note: After legal clarification from the
City Attorney, Mayor Wolfson withdrew his second. Commissioner Fletcher then
seconded.)
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Mr. Jensen stated if a motion to approve fails, that is a denial. Mayor Wolfson
withdrew his second. Commissioner Fletcher seconded.
Votes:
Aye: 2 -Waters, Wolfson
Nay: 2 -Fletcher, Simmons
MOTION FAILED
Mayor Wolfson expressed to Ms. Thomas that she can return when there is a full
Commission and bring the waiver back for a request. Ms. Doerr stated there is a $250
application fee which she is not allowed to waive.
Motion: $250 fee will be waived if aoaGcant reaaalies within 30 days
Moved by Fletcher, Seconded by Simmons
Votes:
Aye: 4 -Fletcher, Simmons, Waters, Wolfson
Nay: 0
MOTION CARRIED
Mayor Wolfson explained to Ms. Thomas she can return before the five person
Commission to make the same request, without paying the $250. He stated that she
should contact the Community Development Director, Sonya Doerr, and she will assist
her.
B. Public hearing to consider transmittal to the Department of Community Affairs
of proposed semi-annual amendments to the 2015 Comprehensive Plan,
including one proposed amendment to the Future Land Use Map, described as
follows:
Request from Selva Marina Country Club, Inc. to amend the 2015 Future Land
Use Map to re-designate approximately 27.34 acres from Recreation and Open
Space (R/O) to Residential, Low Density (RL) for property located at 1600
Selva Marina Drive. The anticipated future project is redevelopment of the
Selva Marina Country Club golf course and club facilities and new residential
use. No zoning change or specific plan of development is under consideration
at this time.
(Selva Marina portion of Item 8B was taken out of sequence and acted on earlier
in the meeting.)
Also, City-initiated proposed text amendments (unrelated to the above
application) to the Goals, Objectives and Policies of the Capital Improvements
Element and the Intergovernmental Coordination Element of the 2015
Comprehensive Plan.
Mayor Wolfson opened the floor to the public hearing.
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No one from the audience spoke so the Mayor closed the public hearing.
Ms. Doerr stated there are two new policies proposed on the Intergovernmental
Coordination Element indicated by underlined text on Page G-5, Policy 01.3.2 and
01.3.3. The more significant amendments are to the Capital Improvements Element of
the Comp Plan. She stated we should be reviewing and updating this element every
year as needed. She explained to Commissioner Fletcher that the additional language
he requested will be added when she coordinates with Ed Layman at the Regional
Planning Council. There will also be an opportunity to make additional revisions when
this comes back through the adoption phase.
Commissioner Fletcher asked Ms. Doerr to clarify that changes can still be made before
adoption. Ms. Doerr stated that is correct because when we come to the adoption
process we can adopt with changes and then identify the changes made to DCA.
Motion: Direct staff to transmit to the Department of Community Affairs. in
accordance with Sections 163.3184,163.3187 and 163.3189, Florida Statutes,
proposed tent amendments and updates to the Capital Improvements and
Intergovernmental Coordination Elements of the 2015 Comprehensive Plan,
finding that•
1. The proposed text amendments have been fully considered after public
hearing pursuant to legal notice duly published as required by law
2. The proposed text amendments are consistent with the City of Atlantic
Beach Comprehensive Plan. Ordinance No. 31-04-04, as adopted and
amended; Florida Statutes (Chapter 163, Part III; and Rule 9J-5, Florida
Administrative Code, as these relate to the adoption of Comprehensive
Plan amendments.
3. The proposed text amendments preserve internal consistency with the
adopted 2015 Comprehensive Plan.
Moved by Simmons, seconded by Wolfson.
Commissioner Fletcher expressed concern about who pays, the developer or the City.
He stated at the Regional Planning Council (RPC), they added a phase that the City has
the sole right to decide who pays; secondly, the Capital Improvement Element is not a
pay as you go CIE, it simply says financial feasibilities shall be insured; and thirdly, if
you defer any action the City could take on a development to permitting or certificates
of occupancy, that is way late in the process and you get stuck. He stated this has
happened at RPC.
Votes:
Aye: 4 -Fletcher, Simmons, Waters, Wolfson
Nay: 0
MOTION CARRIED
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C. Approve the New Sanitation Contract with Waste Services of Florida and
authorize the Mayor to execute the agreement for services beginning June 1,
2007.
Mr. Hanson stated the summary of the contract changes is attached to the staff report
and reflects changes made to the City Code, which was approved tonight.
Motion: A~nrove the New Sanitation Contract with Waste Services of Florida
and authorize the Mavor to execute the agreement for services beginning June 1,
2007.
Moved by Simmons, seconded by Waters.
Votes:
Aye: 4 -Fletcher, Simmons, Waters, Wolfson
Nay: 0
MOTION CARRIED
D. Authorize new sidewalk construction on Palm Avenue and West 11th Street.
Mr. Hanson stated there is money to accommodate both sidewalks in the current
budget.
Motion: Authorize new sidewalk construction on Palm Avenue and West 11th
Street
Moved by Fletcher, seconded by Simmons.
Votes:
Aye: 4 -Fletcher, Simmons, Waters, Wolfson
Nay: 0
MOTION CARRIED
E. Prostitution Enforcement.
Chief Thompson summarized his written report, stating we are having difficulty getting
them prosecuted the way they should be. After discussion, the Commission asked that
Mr. Jensen meet with State Attorney Harry Shorstein and report back at the next
meeting.
City Manager 9. City Manager
A. City Manager's Report
Mr. Hansen summarized his written report and also stated upcoming events are the
Annual Skateboard competition and the Annual Arts in the Park Festival on May 5. He
also mentioned the best meeting times for the regular workshops with the Commission
will be the Tuesday after the second Monday in each month. Mayor Wolfson clarified
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that these dates be put on the calendar annually but if they have nothing to meet on
there will be no meeting. The Commission decided these meetings will be held at 6:00
p.m.
Reports/Requests 10. Reports andlor requests from City Commissioners and City Attorney
City Commissioners
City Attorney
Commissioner Simmons
• Asked the City Clerk to look up the cases of denial/waiver of lot size so the
Commission will be prepared should Ms. Thomas return for her waiver.
Commissioner Fletcher
Commended the Commission for their patience and accomplishments tonight.
Commissioner Waters
• Asked for clarification if the Commission had set precedent for anything else
when they grant a waiver. Mr. Jensen stated they would certainly set a
precedent for identical requests that came in later. Commissioner Waters stated
that a waiver is considered on its individual merits. Mr. Jensen stated that if
there is a way to differentiate between two requests, you can judge each one on
its merits, as you should, but if you had another request identical to this one he
stated he hoped they would be acted on the same. Commissioner Simmons
stated that was why she requested staff pull the records. Mayor Wolfson stated
what he doesn't want to do is be inconsistent.
Mayor Wolfson
• Asked that the Commission follow the Legislative Alerts regarding the tax
reform in Tallahassee and stated this will be the major issue the Florida League
of Mayors will address and it concerns every municipality throughout the State.
He stated Nelson VanLiere put together a memorandum which was forwarded
to Mr. Hansen regarding the 2007 proposal for property tax reform and what it
will mean to the citizens of our community. He requested the Commissioners
please review it when you receive it and give him their thoughts so he can speak
to the Florida League of Mayors about this.
City Clerk Bussey
• Requested clarification for how far back they need the research. Commissioner
Simmons suggested checking back to when it was codified that it had to be
7500 s.f. and 75 ft wide lot, but she is not sure what a reasonable time period is.
Commissioner Simmons suggested when the staff determines when that time
period was, something may appear obvious to staff as to how far back it will
need to be.
• Informed Commission there are two Monday holidays when the Commission
will meet on Tuesday -May 29 and November 13, 2007. Mayor Wolfson stated
the November 13 date will interfere with the regular workshop meeting just
scheduled so they will need to find another time to meet, if needed.
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Adjournment There being no further discussion, the Mayor declared the meeting adjourned at 11:38
pm.
Donald M. Wolfson, Mayor/Presidin Officer
ATTEST:
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Donna L. Bussey, CMC
City Clerk