06-23-08MINUTES
REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING
June 23, 2008
CITY HALL, 800 SEMINOLE ROAD
Attendance IN ATTENDANCE:
Mayor John S. Meserve Commissioner Carolyn Woods
Mayor Pro Tem Mike Borno City Attorney Alan C. Jensen
Commissioner John L. Fletcher City Manager Jim Hanson
Commissioner Paul Parsons City Clerk Donna Bartle
Call to Order/Pledge Mayor Meserve called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m. Mayor Meserve gave the
Invocation, followed by the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.
Approval of Minutes 1. Approval of the minutes of the Regular Commission Meeting of June 9,
2008.
Motion: Aaprove the minutes of the Regular Commission Meeting of June 9,
2008, as written.
Moved by Borno, seconded by Parsons.
Votes:
Aye: 5 -Borno, Fletcher, Meserve, Parsons, Woods
Nay: 0 -
MOTION CARRIED
Courtesy of the Floor 2. Courtesy of the Floor to Visitors.
Mayor Meserve opened the Courtesy of the Floor to Visitors. He welcomed the
audience and explained the process for public comments.
Pat Pillmore, 995 Camelia St., addressed the Commission regarding districts. She
also stated right and wrong is subjective and can become a majority and when you go
right or wrong you are sometimes in a position to start a war.
Stephen Kuti,1132 Linkside Drive, addressed the Commission regarding Ordinance
33-08-15, stating he believes the proposed Districts 13H and 13G are gerrymandering.
He further stated redistricting is the job of the City Clerk because she took the oath to
uphold the law about elections.
Michael Hoffmann, 176 Camelia St., addressed the Commission regarding the
reapportionment of the districts and encouraged the Commission to use general
population rather than number of registered voters to determine districts. Mr.
Hoffmann also commended Mr. Peck and Mr. Hatfield of the police department for
their noise abatement solutions in his neighborhood.
Jim Smith, 73 Oceanside Drive, spoke against districting, stating by further reducing
an area from which a candidate can come the City is greatly reducing the odds of
having a competitive election and believes districting will reduce the quality of
representation the City currently has.
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No one else from the audience spoke so Mayor Meserve closed the Courtesy of the
Floor to Visitors.
Unfinished Business 3. Unfinished Business from Previous Meeting
from Previous A. City Manager's Follow-up Report.
Meeting
Mr. Hanson followed up on the request for bicycles to be used in the skate park, stating
the City does not allow bicycles for safety reasons and the skate park was designed
without bicycles in mind, but stated a facility could be built for the bicycles if a site was
determined and funds and manpower to run it were made available.
Also reported the policy has been to restrict the use of the Reader Board to advertise
only City-sponsored events on this site, which includes City Hall, Police Department
and Russell Park. He stated this is consistent with our sign code which prohibits off-
premises advertising but this can be changed by the Commission.
Consent Agenda 4. Consent Agenda
ALL MATTERS LISTED UNDER THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE
CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE BY THE CITY COMMISSION AND
WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION IN THE FORM LISTED
BELOW. THERE WILL BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION OF THESE
ITEMS. IF DISCUSSION IS DESIRED, THAT ITEM WILL BE
REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND WILL BE
CONSIDERED SEPARATELY. SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION
AND STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY
SUBMITTED TO THE CITY COMMISSION ON THESE ITEMS
A. Acknowledge receipt of Monthly Building, Utility Sales and
Financial Reports for May 2008.
B. Approve renewal of the City's insurance, effective July 1, 2008
through September 30, 2009, with PRIA as indicated in the staff
report and chart.
C. Extend the contract for Street SweepinglVacuuming with USA
Services of Florida, Inc. for one year at the current cost, which is
$26,160.00.
Mayor Meserve read the Consent Agenda.
Commissioner Parsons asked that Item C be pulled.
Motion• Approve Consent Agenda Items A and B, as read.
Moved by Borno, seconded by Fletcher.
Votes:
Aye: 5 - Borno, Fletcher, Meserve, Parsons, Woods
Nay: 0 -
MOTION CARRIED
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Commissioner Parsons asked if it is correct the street sweepers are not to sweep streets
without curbs. Mr. Carper stated they are to sweep every paved street. Commissioner
Parsons stated he believes they are doing a bad job. Mr. Carper stated they have
required them to come back and redo neighborhoods when the streets were not done
properly and has no problem calling them to come back to make them do it right.
Motion: Approve Consent Agenda Item C. as read.
Moved by Borno, seconded by Parsons.
Votes:
Aye: 5 -Borno, Fletcher, Meserve, Parsons, Woods
Nay: 0 -
MOTION CARRIED
Committee Reports 5. Committee Reports
None.
Action on Resolutions 6. Action on Resolutions
None.
Action on Ordinances 7. Action on Ordinances
A. Ordinance No. 55-08-33, Public Hearing and Final Reading
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH,
FLORIDA, AMENDING CHAPTER 16, SOLID WASTE AND
RECYCLING, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE
Mayor Meserve read Ordinance 55-08-33 by title only.
Motion: Approve Ordinance No. 55-08-33. as read.
Moved by Borno, seconded by Parsons.
Mayor Meserve opened the Public Hearing. No one from the audience spoke so the
Mayor closed the Public Hearing.
Commissioner Fletcher stated he believes this adds a layer of regulation that is not
necessary at this time. Commissioner Parsons agreed with Commissioner Fletcher and
suggested the ordinance be rewritten allowing yard waste in bags or receptacles to be
set out two days prior to pick up. Commissioner Borno explained when this ordinance
was first passed, before the second reading, the wording was in there but was omitted in
the final reading and did not get passed in the final form. He stated this will be an
administrative burden if they try to manipulate it other than on the day of collection.
He stated it was purposely set up to have both wastes picked up on the same day and
the intent of the ordinance as first read and passed is where the Commission should
support it. Commissioner Fletcher stated he believes this puts an unfair burden on the
elderly. He also stated he believes the City was cleaned up by changing from two day
garbage pickup to one day, not due to yard waste not being allowed out prior to pickup.
Commissioner Borno asked whether yard waste was included in the registered list for
help in taking cans to the curb for the infirmed/handicapped citizens. Mr. Carper stated
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the contract allows for side yard pickup for trash only, not yard waste. Mr. Carper
stated the City could look at doing this because the number of people on the registered
list is not that long.
Mayor Meserve asked if changing this from one day to two days would be a major
change. Mr. Jensen stated it would not.
Mayor Meserve asked for a motion to amend the motion to approve ordinance.
Amended Motion: Change Ordinance 55-08-33 to allow yard waste in receptacles
to be out two days prior to pickup.
Moved by Parsons, seconded by Fletcher
After further discussion, the City Manager suggested language for the amendment as
follows: in the fourth sentence under Section 1, (2) (b) "Garbage and yard waste
containers shall be set out no earlier ..." strike "and yard waste" and add after the
sentence "Yard waste such as leaves or grass clippings shall be set out in a yard waste
receptacle.", the clause, "no sooner than two days prior to collection".
Mayor Meserve called for a vote on the amendment.
Votes:
Aye: 4 -Fletcher, Meserve, Parsons, Woods
Nay: 1 -Borno
MOTION CARRIED
Motion: Approve Ordinance No. 55-08-33. as amended with language suggested
by City Manager.
Moved by Borno, Seconded by Fletcher
Votes:
Aye: 4 -Fletcher, Meserve, Parsons, Woods
Nay: 1 -Borno
MOTION CARRIED
B. Ordinance No. 25-08-39, Introduction and First Reading
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH,
FLORIDA, AMENDING CHAPTER 6 OF THE CODE OF
ORDINANCES, BUILDINGS AND BUILDING
REGULATIONS, ARTICLE II, BUILDING CODE, BY
REPEALING SEC. 6-24(b), RESIDENTIAL DUNE
CROSSOVER STRUCTURES, AND PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE
Mayor Meserve read Ordinance 25-08-39 by title only.
Motion: Approve Ordinance No. 25-08-39. as read.
Moved by Borno, seconded by Fletcher.
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Votes:
Aye: 5 -Borno, Fletcher, Meserve, Parsons, Woods
Nay: 0 -
MOTION CARRIED
C. Ordinance No. 33-08-15, Introduction and First Reading
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH,
FLORIDA, ESTABLISHING THE FOUR DISTRICTS FOR
SEATS TWO THROUGH FIVE OF THE CITY COMMISSION,
ASSIGNING CITY COMIVIISSION SEATS TO THE
DISTRICTS, SETTING AN ELECTION SCHEDULE, AND
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE
Mayor Meserve read Ordinance No. 33-08-15 by title only.
Motion: Approve Ordinance No. 33-08-15, as read.
Moved by Borno, seconded by Fletcher.
City Manager Hanson explained the history of the district referendum, the
recommendations for the changes in the precinct boundaries for the districts, and
outlined the main points of the ordinance.
Commissioner Fletcher asked if there is any language addressing convicted felons
running for office. City Attorney Jensen stated convicted felons would be prohibited
from holding elected office by state law. Commissioner Fletcher also asked what
would happen if no one ran from a certain district. Mr. Jensen stated that is addressed
by a provision in the Charter for appointing someone to a vacancy. Mayor Meserve
stated if a seat went vacant for any reason the Charter gives the Commission the ability
to appoint someone. Commissioner Borno questioned whether the appointed person
must live in the district of the vacancy. Mr. Jensen stated if this ordinance is passed, it
states they must have resided in that district for at least one year prior to qualifying.
Commissioner Woods asked if someone was convicted of a lesser crime than a felony,
could they still run. Mr. Jensen stated convicted felons loose certain rights, i.e. right to
vote, right to hold elected office, etc., but if a person still has those rights, even if
convicted of a misdemeanor, he believes they could still run if they met all of the other
qualifications. Commissioner Woods stated she also would like to know what the
population numbers are as compared to the voting population. She also suggested
postponing the vote on this to see if the committee can come up with more than one
proposal for the Commission to consider.
Commissioner Parsons stated he would like to see Commissioner Borno be able to run
again and not be pushed out of office due to the new districts. Mayor Meserve stated
the reason he suggested the two districts up for election next was that they were the
least served districts in the city. He stated 13S has never had an elected official and
13F is the next one of all the districts. He stated there are other ways to divide the
districts but they have blended the districts to keep neighborhoods together as much as
possible. He stated the voters spoke and he believes the Commission should move
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forward as soon as possible which is why he recommended 13S and 13F as the first two
districts.
Mr. Hanson stated the report from the District Election Committee recommended the
districts be set with as little change as possible, while trying to maintain the integrity of
the neighborhoods. He stated there are very minor changes made to the districts to
equalize them. He stated they were also required to follow the census tract lines, which
limits how the lines can be drawn. Commissioner Borno stated the City Manager and
City Clerk were given this project and did due diligence and came back with a good
report. He further stated personalities do not need to enter into this at all. He stated he
serves because he wants to serve; he is not driven to be a Commissioner and has no
agendas whatsoever. Commissioner Fletcher stated he believes, regarding general
population vs. registered voters, it should be left the way it is to be consistent with the
way it has been done in the past. He further agreed the City Clerk and City Manager
did a great job adhering to the call of the charter referendum. He asked why the
election could not be set for the naturally expiring seats, rather than setting the two
districts. Mayor Meserve stated the reason he did not go in that direction, personally,
was because that will say to the voters who said they have underserved districts, we
will do it because you forced us to but we are going to put off 13S unti12011. He
believes putting something off for four years just because that is the way they think
they should do it, sends the wrong message. He stated he does not believe that is the
right way to go. He stated the citizens have spoken and the Commission should make
this happen in a timely fashion.
Votes:
Aye: 5 -Borno, Fletcher, Meserve, Parsons, Woods
Nay: 0 -
MOTION CARRIED
Miscellaneous 8. Miscellaneous Business
Business
A. Request for confirmation of staff interpretation of bingo as a permitted
secondary activity at the American Legion Post 3161ocated at 1127 Atlantic Boulevard
and also the Fleet Reserve Association #290 located at 390 Mayport Road, and also
other similar facilities where bingo would be a minor and incidental recreational
activity such as may be typical to churches and country clubs.
Community Development Director Sonya Doerr explained staff s interpretation of the
request is that it is legal to allow this activity in the Commercial General and requested
confirmation from the Commission.
It was the consensus of the Commission that this activity is legal and should be
permitted as a secondary activity.
Motion: Approve and confirm staffs interaretation of bingo as a
permitted secondary activity at veteran's organizations and other
similar organizations as regulated by State Law, and also including
churches and country clubs where bingo is clearly a minor and
incidental activity at such facili
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Moved by Borno, Seconded by Parsons
Votes:
Aye: 5 -Borno, Fletcher, Meserve, Parsons, Woods
Nay: 0 -
MOTION CARRIED
City Manager 9. City Manager
A. City Manager's Report
Mr. Hanson reported on alcohol deployments conducted on May 31 and June 20,
stating 2 of 16 businesses sold alcohol to minors on May 31 and 2 of 13 businesses sold
alcohol to minors on June 20.
Also reported he has not been able to meet with the managers yet at One Ocean to
discuss the reimbursement for the repairs on the Ahern Street Beach Access, but has
sent them a letter.
Reports/Requests 10. Reports and/or requests from City Commissioners and City Attorney
City Commissioners
City Attorney A. Recommendation for reappointing members to the Cultural Arts and Recreation
Advisory Committee
Commissioner Borno stated the Board Member Review Committee recommended
Jolyn Johnson and Ingrid McCawley for reappointment to another term on the Cultural
Arts and Recreation Advisory Committee.
Motion: Reanaoint Jolyn Johnson and Ingrid McCawley for reaauointment to
another term on the Cultural Arts and Recreation Advisory Committee.
Moved by Borno, Seconded by Parsons.
Votes:
Aye: 5 -Borno, Fletcher, Meserve, Parsons, Woods
Nay: 0 -
MOTION CARRIED
Commissioner Woods
• Stated she is still confused and concerned about how the wetland mitigation is
going to be handled for the Selva Preserve, but, at this time, will keep living and
learning and figure that out as she goes.
Commissioner Parsons
Stated he believes City-sponsored events that are not on this property should be
allowed to advertise on the billboard out front. Mayor Meserve suggested
Commissioner Parsons bring back some recommendations and specifics as to
what he would like to include.
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Mayor Pro Tem Borno
• Stated a fall event for Arts in the Park is being considered.
• Does not believe the City should build a bike park because of the proximity of
Hannah Park, where there are bike trails, etc.
Mayor Meserve
Gave a summary of his visit to Washington, D.C.
Adjournment
There being no further discussion, the Mayor
ATTEST:
the meeting adjourned at 7:23 pm.
Donna L. Bartle, CMC
City Clerk
Mayor/Presiding Officer