1B - Minutes 1-27-14AGENDA ITEM# IB
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MINUTES OF THE WORKSHOP OF ATLANTIC BEACH CITY COMMISSION
HELD IN THE COMMISSION CHAMBER ON JANUARY 27, 2014
City Commission Members present:
Mayor Carolyn Woods
Mayor Pro Tern Mark Beckenbach
Commissioner Jonathan Daugherty
Commissioner Jimmy Hill
Commissioner Maria Mark
Staff present:
Nelson Van Liere, City Manager
Richard Komando, City Attorney
Donna Bartle, City Clerk
Nancy Bailey, Recording Secretary
Call to order.
The meeting, which was held for the purpose of discussing the agenda items for the Commission
Meeting of February 10, 2014, was called to order at 6:30p.m. by Mayor Woods. She welcomed the
audience and explained the process for public comments. She stated speakers would be allowed 2
minutes.
1. Presentation by former Jacksonville Human Rights Commission Board Member, Dr. Sol
Brotman, regarding complaint process/enforcement.
Dr. Sol Brotman summarized his background and stated the opinions he expresses tonight are his own
and may not reflect the opinion of the Jacksonville Human Rights Commission or any other
governmental entity. He also explained when and why the Human Rights Commission was formed. He
distributed a handout highlighting areas of complaints that may be investigated by the Jacksonville
Human Rights Commission, summarizing each and explaining the staff model of intake, investigation
and mediation. He further explained the citizens and privatized models. He answered questions from
the Commission.
2. Courtesy of Floor to Visitors
Mayor Woods opened the Courtesy of the Floor to Visitors.
Raymond Johnson, 3036 Stratton Lane, spoke in opposition to the Human Rights Ordinance. He
distributed a DVD entitled "Agenda" to the Commission.
Mike Whalen, 1420 Mayport Road, spoke in opposition to the development at 201 Mayport Road.
Richard Salkin, 336 Sunrise Circle, Neptune Beach, stated he supports the Human Rights Ordinance.
Judy Urback, 1625 Felch Avenue, spoke in support ofthe Human Rights Ordinance.
Tricia Russell, 8720 CR 13 N ., St. Augustine, spoke in support of the Human Rights Ordinance.
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Cindy Watson, 111 Trout River Terrace, Jacksonville, spoke ill support of the Human Rights
Ordinance.
Steve Haerter, 106 19th Ave. S., Jacksonville Beach, addressed the Beaches Habitat presentation,
stating it was informative and detailed, and also spoke in support of the Human Rights Ordinance.
Kevin Walker, 12499 Hunt Cliff Lane, Jacksonville, spoke in opposition to the Human Rights
Ordinance.
Victor Eskew, 13695 Covington Creek Drive, Jacksonville, spoke in opposition to the Human Rights
Ordinance.
Marcus Stanley, 1025 Snug Harbor Ct., spoke in opposition to the Human Rights Ordinance.
James Eddy, 222 Lawton Ave., Jacl{Sonville, spoke in support of the Human Rights Ordinance.
Larry Paulk, 5 Fairway Lane, Jacksonville Beach, spoke in opposition to the Human Rights
Ordinance.
Carlos Dawson, 5252 Clapboard Creek Dr., Jacksonville, spoke in opposition to the Human Rights
Ordinance.
Peyton Hopkins, 957 13th Ave. S., Jacksonville Beach, spoke ill support of the Human Rights
Ordinance.
Sharon Krause, 4845 Plymouth St., Jacksonville, spoke m opposition to the Human Rights
Ordinance.
Tom Minette, 1206 N. Laura St., spoke in support of the Human Rights Ordinance.
Maryann Dyal, 1765 Seminole Rd., spoke in support of the Human Rights Ordinance.
Helen Urban, 543 Pelican Key, spoke in support of the Human Rights Ordinance.
Laura Lane, 7228 Clinton St., Jacksonville, spoke in support of the Human Rights Ordinance.
Michelle Knight, 1494 Linkside Dr., spoke in support of the Human Rights Ordinance.
Paul Gunsaulies, 780 Begonia Street, spoke regarding the boats in yards and asked that they consider
modifying the ordinance.
Sally Clemens, 1638 Park Terrace West, stated they need to consider how they will enforce the
Human Rights Ordinance.
No one else from the audience spoke so Mayor Woods closed the Courtesy ofthe Floor to Visitors.
Mayor Woods adjourned the meeting at 7:27p.m. She reconvened the meeting at 7:33p.m.
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3. *Discussion of Agenda Items on February 10,2014 Commission Meeting:
1. A.
B.
C.
D.
E.
Approve the minutes of the Regular Commission meeting of December 9, 2013.
Approve the minutes of the Regular Commission meeting of January 13, 2014.
Approve the minutes of the Special Called Meeting of December 16, 2013.
Approve the minutes of the Commission Workshop of December 16, 2013.
Approve the minutes of the Town Hall meeting of January 11, 2014.
There was no discussion on these items.
2. Courtesy of Floor to Visitors
A. Presentation of Congressional Youth Award.
There was no discussion on this item.
3. Unfinished Business from Previous Meetings
A. City Manager's Follow-up Report.
City Manager VanLiere reported the groundbreaking ceremony for Atlantic Beach Country Club will be
this Friday with overflow parking at Johansen Parle
He reported that they are still trying to get together with Jacksonville to schedule a meeting on the
Interlocal Service Boundary Agreement.
Reported the tippage issue is still up in the air and they are waiting to see what Neptune Beach's
proposal was from Jacksonville. He stated they also need to discuss bidding out a contract to renew it or
just renewing with Waste Services, if they come in with an appropriate proposal. He stated service
levels, price, term and tippage are all still up in the air. Commissioner Beckenbach asked that he expand
on tippage. Mr. Van Liere stated they had met with Neptune Beach and discussed the deal with
Jacksonville and how that may/may not be acceptable to Atlantic Beach. He stated Neptune Beach
wanted a different hauler and different method of collection for us in that deal and they are currently
waiting to see what specific deal they are offering Neptune Beach, but Atlantic Beach has to work out
their own as well. Discussion ensued.
Reported that the RFPs for City Attorney and City Manager are out.
Reported the Rose Park punch list will use up the remaining money that was allocated for the park and
the dog park will have to be funded with additional monies. He stated he received an itemized list from
Public Works and the amount is approximately $3 7,000 to complete the fencing, sod, water, gates and
signage and he needs direction whether he needs to put this on a future meeting as a budget ordinance.
Discussion ensued. Commissioner Daugherty stated he wants this added as a budget amendment.
Further discussion ensued. Commissioner Beckenbach asked how far along they are on the gazebo
being put in Bull Park. Mr. Carper stated it is sitting on his desk for action but he has not taken any yet.
Commissioner Beckenbach asked if it was correct that they had $40K for that. Mr. Carper stated that
was correct. Commissioner Beckenbach asked if they wanted to move that to next year and move the
$37K, would that be acceptable to Public Works. Mr. Carper stated they would do what the
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Commission tells them to do. He stated to finish one park versus going ahead and doing something like
that would be better. Commissioner Mark asked if that $40K was actually in the budget for the gazebo.
Commissioner Beckenbach stated yes. Commissioner Daugherty asked if they could direct staff to do
that without doing a budget modification. Mayor Woods stated they would still do a budget
modification but it would just be reallocating the funds already in the budget. Commissioner Mark
stated she would agree to that. Mayor Woods stated since they are discussing it tonight it wouldn't be
on the January 2ih agenda, but on the next one. Mr. VanLiere stated it would be on the next workshop
for the following meeting to just reappropriate the project money from the gazebo to dog park.
Commissioner Daugherty stated if he asked for this to be on this agenda, why wasn't it. Mr. VanLiere
stated he wasn't completely sure that was what they meant. Mayor Woods stated he didn't get
consensus. Commissioner Beckenbach asked if there was consensus to go ahead and move forward with
moving that out of the gazebo into the dog park. Mayor Woods stated right, he is going to prepare that
budget. Commissioner Beckenbach asked again if they have consensus here. Mayor Woods stated yes.
It was the consensus of the Commission to prepare a budget modification to reappropriate the money
from the gazebo for Bull Park to the dog park.
Mr. VanLiere stated that the Commission previously approved the staff recommendation to award the
Marsh Master Plan design to Hanson and to give them the approval to begin if they gave us a proposal
within the budget. He reported that their proposal was almost twice the budget, so going forward on that
without further input from the Commission would not be the right thing to do. He stated staff can be
directed to reduce the scope so it comes within our budget; or the Commission can direct staff to find the
money to fund their proposal; or they can go to the second firm and try to negotiate a better deal. Public
Works Director Rick Carper reported on the options. He stated Hanson has come back to staff with a
second proposal that has the ability to go in for $147K and give us the preliminary design, which is what
we need to determine the actual final path; the environmental permits to do the entire path; and only give
us complete final design for the segment from Levy Road to Dutton Island Road. He stated that is the
route that has no ownership issues. He stated his recommendation is to build that segment of the path
which would allow them to meet the FIND grant deadlines for that section. Mayor Woods pointed out
that they had a group of citizens who live in two cul-de-sacs that were not happy about the thought of
having public access and parking and the City has committed to them that they be involved in the
discussions of the final route of this path. She asked if part of those funds will cover interaction with the
community. Mr. Carper stated that is part of the Phase 1 portion of the project and they have committed
to the Hidden Paradise Homeowners Association that they will meet with them directly. Discussion
ensued. Mayor Woods suggested the City consider getting a professional grant writing team. Further
discussion ensued. Mr. Carper reiterated the options: tell the consultant to proceed with Phase 1, the
preliminary design and public outreach and path selection, only; or tell him to do Phase 1, 2, and 3A; or
stop, go back and start over and discuss in the pre-budget workshops. Mayor Woods stated the
Commission should get with Mr. Carper and Mr. Van Liere before the next meeting.
Mr. VanLiere reported on an email asking about the Seminole Road Streetscape drainage project. He
stated we had a budget of $490K and Mr. Carper's estimate is now about $750K. Mr. Carper explained
the status of the project, stating proposals are due February 7. He explained the number that was in the
CDM storm water master plan for the cost of the Seminole Road drainage project was $650K. He stated
the number he put in his stormwater capital improvement plan was $250K, which was the number
budgeted for stormwater improvements this year. He stated he doesn't believe we will have the money
to build it and he is proposing that they go ahead and do the design this fiscal year and have a better cost
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estimate by the time budgets come together so we can then budget the actual amount for construction in
the next fiscal year.
Commissioner Beckenbach asked if the Master Plan and conservation easement was recorded for
Atlantic Beach Country Club yet. Mr. Van Liere stated he would find out. Commissioner Beckenbach
also asked if the RFP for the architect for the police building has gone out. Mr. Van Liere stated it is
out. Discussion ensued. Mayor Woods asked that Mr. VanLiere have a more detailed report at the next
meeting.
Commissioner Hill asked about the erosion issue around the culvert, and can they do an emergency
repair. Mr. Carper stated he was not in the office most of the day but will check to see what has been
done on it.
Item 8A was taken out of sequence and acted on at this time.
A. Report on the Central Florida Water Initiative (CFWl).
Public Utilities Director Donna Kaluzniak gave a report on the Central Florida Water Initiative. She
also stated that the two items on the Resolution passed in 2008 that were requested to be done have been
completed. She introduced Geoffrey Sample of the Office of Communications and Intergovernmental
Affairs who elaborated on the water withdrawal and stated there will be a public meeting to give a
presentation and answer questions on January 30, from 5-7 p.m. at the St. Johns County Administration
Building in St. Augustine and also on February 6, from 5-7 p.m. at Jacksonville Council Chambers. He
answered questions from the Commission.
At the request of Commissioner Beckenbach, Ms. Kaluzniak also gave a report on the reuse water
project stating it will take a year to complete the whole project but they will have them watered by April
30.
4. Consent Agenda
ALL MATTERS LISTED UNDER THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED TO BE
ROUTINE BY THE CITY COMMISSION AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION IN THE
FORM LISTED BELOW. THERE WILL BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION OF THESE ITEMS. IF
DISCUSSION IS DESIRED, THAT ITEM WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA
AND WILL BE CONSIDERED SEPARATELY. SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION AND STAFF
RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED TO THE CITY COMMISSION
ON THESE ITEMS.
A. Acknowledge receipt 'of the Building Department Monthly Activity Report, Code Enforcement
Report, List of New Business Taxes, Financial Report and Utility Sales Report for December
2013.
B. Declare this list of property as surplus so that the items on it may be disposed of in the most
beneficial way to the City.
Commissioner Daugherty asked about the vehicles on the surplus list. Mr. Van Liere explained the
vehicles that go on the beach rust very quickly.
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5. Committee Reports
None.
6. Action on Resolutions
None.
7. Action on Ordinances
A. ORDINANCE NO. 80-14-84, Public Hearing and Final Reading
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AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 22 UTILITIES, ARTICLE I, SECTION 22-4
AUTHORITY TO ADJUST OR WAIVE CHARGES IN APPROPRIATE CASES, (E)
ADIDSTMENT FOR LEAKS ON CONSUMER'S SIDE OF METER, AND (F),
ADJUSTMENT FOR FILLING SWIMMING POOL; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY
AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
There was no discussion on this item.
8. Miscellaneous Business
A. Report on the Central Florida Water Initiative (CFWI).
This item was taken out of sequence and acted on earlier in the meeting.
B. Recreational Vehicles in Front Yards.
Commissioner Daugherty showed a slide of an example lot, stating he proposed a change to make this
fair to the entire City, which he distributed to the Commission. He stated, under (b )(2) he wanted to
remove "front lot line" and add "street, but not within the right-of-way". Mike Griffin explained the
differences of distances from the pavement to the property lines. Discussion ensued. Mr. Carper
explained the difference really isn't where the street is in the right-of-way; both Commissioner
Daugherty's street and Begonia have a 50' right-of-way. He stated the primary difference is the width
of the street. He explained that Begonia Street is one of the streets in the City's stormwater master plan
where they are going to go in and do a drainage project sometime in the next five years and because the
width of the pavement is 14-16', he expects that street to get wider. He stated, therefore, a boat he could
put there today, he may not be able to put there if they make this change. He stated the difference
between the lots is not the pavement or right-of-way width, it is where the house is on the lot and, in
Commissioner Daugherty's case, his house is farther away from the right-of-way line. Further
discussion ensued.
Mr. Griffin stated staff's recommendation is to uphold the Community Development Board's
recommendation. Discussion ensued. Commissioner Mark asked City Attorney Komando what the
City could do to come to a compromise on this. Mr. Komando stated he has not heard any solution that
doesn't create a similar inequity on the other side. After further discussion, Mayor Woods stated what
they have heard from the City Attorney is that so far none of the solutions create equity. She stated they
should keep thinking about it and keep bringing it back and when they get something that everyone can
agree on that does not create another inequity, then they have it. Commissioner Beckenbach suggested
they put it up for a Charter change so the entire City can determine whether they want to have boats and
trailers and RVs in the front of their yards. Mayor Woods stated that is a valid idea and Commissioners
Daugherty and Hill will keep trying to come up with a solution that won't cause anymore inequitabilities
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and they will keep moving forward because they do live in a water community and a lot of people do
have boats. Commissioner Daugherty asked the City Attorney if they can create a provision in which
people can apply for exceptions, because currently they can't. Mayor Woods asked that he get with the
City Attorney outside of the meeting to discuss that. Mr. Komando stated that would test our
requirements on variances so they would need to talk about it differently.
C. Paperless Agenda Project Update.
Keith Randich summarized his staff report. He asked Commissioner Mark and Mayor Woods to report
on their experience using the iPads. Commissioner Mark stated she is now going paperless and she likes
it; it was an easy transition and encouraged the others to try it. Mayor Woods stated she really likes it
also. She stated she thought it was to be used so they would not have anything on their personal devices
so she has been trying to do things with it that it wasn't set up to do. She stated it takes fantastic pictures
but getting a PowerPoint off of it is a real struggle. She stated if the consensus is that they are trying to
get all of the City business off their personal devices that they go to a smaller laptop instead, which
would have more options. She stated she does love the iPad, the keyboard, the case and is learning how
to put all the notes on it since she has not used it before. She stated the question is what do they want it
to do for them and then they can answer which path they go down. Discussion ensued. Mr. Randich
stated he doesn't believe it is necessary that all the Commissioners go with the same solution. He stated
in the beginning this was to be a paper saving device specifically for the agendas and based on that
requirement that was what led staff to pick the iPad device for this evaluation. He stated once they got
going, both Commissioner Mark and Mayor Woods found other uses for the device but Mayor Woods
exceeded the functionality of the iPad. He stated there are dozens of different selections they could
choose for devices but from a support standpoint, as far as City staff goes, he believes they would like to
minimize the number of options because of a training standpoint. He answered questions from the
Commission. Mayor Woods asked the Commissioners what device they would like and what they
would want it to do for them and what is the goal for them as a group. Commissioner Hill stated the
iPad is perfect for what he needs it for. Commissioner Daugherty stated he is fine with the iPad.
Commissioner Beckenbach stated he is easy. Discussion ensued.
D. FY 2013-2014 Resurfacing Project.
Rick Carper summarized his staff report on the resurfacing projects for the coming year. He stated he
proposes to piggy back on either the City of Jacksonville's or St. Johns County's annual resurfacing
contract, whichever is most advantageous.
9. City Manager
A. City Manager's Report.
Mr. VanLiere reported January 1, 2015 is the deadline for the signs to come into compliance with the
sign ordinance. He stated letters will be sent to those affected. Discussion ensued. A question arose
about whether the Kangaroo station had gotten a permit for their new sign and Mr. Griffin stated he
would check on that. Further discussion ensued and Mayor Woods asked the City Attorney for his
insight on the sign ordinance. Mr. Komando stated he has had no experience with the expiration of a
deadline but has worked on a moratorium with another client while they were rewriting their sign
ordinance. He stated there is a case law that does address what governments can do as far as forcing
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commercial businesses to redo their signs and he has a note to himself to look into it. Commissioner
Hill stated he believes they will put a big burden on a lot of our businesses and really need to look at it.
He stated some of these are large expensive signs and just the demo on them would be a big deal. He
stated he believes they need to think about where we are economically and where our businesses are.
Mayor Woods stated she would be interested in that case law. Commissioner Mark stated the changes to
the sign ordinance have been in effect for how long. Mr. Griffin stated since 2002. Commissioner Mark
stated they were given ten years to comply. Mr. Griffin stated our sign code is similar to Neptune Beach
and the Jacksonville overlay district along Mayport Road, with 8' maximum freestanding signs and 1 s.f.
for every lineal foot of frontage. Mayor Woods stated we do need to keep watching this and she looks
forward to a report at the next meeting.
10. Reports and/or requests from City Commissioners and City Attorney
Commissioner Daugherty announced that a Pan era is being built in front of LA Fitness.
Commissioner Beckenbach stated whenever the Mayor speaks to a particular group, that is not
ceremonial, it should have to be acknowledged by the Commission and they are supposed to give the
Mayor the opportunity to go. He stated it is not that the Mayor just goes, it is that the Commission gives
her the okay to go. Mayor Woods clarified that if she is to go speak before a group the Commission
wants her to let them know and get permission to go. Commissioner Beckenbach stated the
Commission would also hear what transpired from that meeting because she is the liaison for the
Commission. Commissioner Beckenbach stated he wants to make this more formal so they will do this
on a regular basis.
Commissioner Mark stated in order to continue moving forward on the Human Rights Ordinance, she
would propose that they direct the City Attorney to draft an ordinance for the HRO and explore
enforcement options. She stated the other request would be for the Commission to adopt a resolution
supporting the House and Senate bills for workforce equality and also contact, either as a Commission
or individually, the representatives in our District who are on the Committees the bills are going before,
expressing our support of that Workforce Equality Bill. Discussion ensued. Mr. Komando stated the
House Bill has been referred to three different committees, the Senate Bill has been referred to four and
it is the seventh year it has been filed; it has never been heard in committee yet. He stated
Representative Saunders indicated it is gaining traction and stated this was the first year there has been
bi-partisan support. He stated that doesn't mean it is going to pass; actually Representative Saunders
comment was that he believed it would be a win if it was heard in one committee. Further discussion
ensued. Mayor Woods asked Commissioner Mark to reiterate her questions. Commissioner Mark stated
(1) Have Mr. Komando start looking at language to draft the HRO and look at the different enforcement
mechanisms that we have talked about and some he may find in his research, including the comments
made about possible lawsuits; and (2) submit a resolution supporting both bills. Discussion ensued
about when to put the resolution on the agenda. It was the consensus of the Commission to add the
resolution supporting the bills to the February 10 meeting. Commissioner Mark stated her third item
was contacting our local representatives who are on these various committees. Mayor Woods stated
they would make sure they got a copy of the resolution and direct staff to write a letter for the
Commission to sign and send. Commissioner Hill stated he understood they would also explore putting
this to the community for a vote. Mayor Woods stated that will come up as they start discussing the
ordinance, which won't be for a month or two. She stated they don't have referendums all the time and
this may very well be one they may want to do that with. She stated they could do it on the election
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cycle this summer. City Clerk Bartle stated you usually have to start this months in advance to have it
on their ballot. She stated the Commission can initiate it but that will take two readings and you have to
get the ballot title approved. Otherwise, it is very expensive to have a separate election outside of theirs.
Commissioner Mark asked if this would fall under the City Attorney's retainer. Mr. Komando stated it
is part of their retainer. He stated he would need direction fi:om the Commission as to what exactly they
are proposing but he can handle it. Mayor Woods asked if they want staff to look at the election cycle
so when they have a discussion about whether to go to a referendum or not they know what the
timeframe is. Commissioner Mark stated she doesn't want to delay this two or three years. Mayor
Woods stated that is one more thing they would like Mr. Komando to look at. Commissioner Hill stated
his only direction for the referendum would be to frame the question as nonbiased as possible so the
citizens can decide this monumental issue.
Commissioner Mark reported Council President Gulliford is holding a meeting on river dredging at 1:30
tomorrow at Jacksonville City Hall.
Commissioner Mark stated she will not be at the groundbreaking on January 31 due to a previous
commitment.
Commissioner Beckenbach complimented the Commission on how they handled themselves today as far
as the conversation. He stated he enjoyed the debate but also felt they were all civil to one another.
Commissioner Mark stated there was an article in the "Times Union" editorial section yesterday by
Diane Catlin talking about debate and how you can have a civil debate and how important it is that you
can have a lively debate but when it's done you get up, shake hands and you are still friends. Mayor
Woods stated you can do that when you don't have personal attacks and accusations.
Adjournment
There being no further discussion by the City Commission, Mayor Woods declared the meeting
adjourned at 10: 11 p.m.
Donna L. Bartle, CMC
City Clerk
Carolyn Woods
Mayor
*Formal action (if needed) will be taken at the Commission Meeting of February 10,2014.