02-03-92 v MINUTES OF THE SPECIAL CALLED MEETING HELD AT ATLANTIC BEACH CITY
HALL ON MONDAY, FEBRUARY 3, 1992, AT 5:30 P. M. BETWEEN THE CITY
COMMISSION OF ATLANTIC BEACH AND THE PROFESSIONAL FIRE FIGHTERS OF
JACKSONVILLE BEACH, LOCAL 2622, IAFF, AFL-CIO-CLC.
The meeting was called to order by Mayor Gulliford. Present in
addition to the Mayor were Commissioners Edwards, Fletcher, Tucker,
and Waters. Also present were City Manager Leinbach, City
Attorney Jensen, Trudy Lopanik who was substituting for City Clerk
Maureen King who was out of town and was excused, and the City' s
Labor Attorney John F. Dickinson. Local 2622 was represented by
Jimmy Hill of the Atlantic Beach Fire Department .
The purpose of the meeting was to discuss subject matters at
impasse between the City of Atlantic Beach and Local 2622,
Professional Fire Fighters of Jacksonville Beach, IAFF. Mayor
Gulliford opened the meeting by stating 17 issues were to be
discussed and that each issue would be discussed and voted upon one
at a time before going to the next issue. Mayor Gulliford
indicated everyone had received an envelope marked "Exhibit 9"
which contained documentation relative to the expenditure of money
by the Commission for the purpose of representation. The Mayor
stated he viewed "Exhibit 9" to be irrelevant to the matters that
have been listed as a point of impasse and he indicated this will
not be discussed.
Union Pool Time
John Dickinson, Labor Attorney for the City of Atlantic Beach,
indicated union pool time would allow employees to contribute to a
leave bank at the rate of a half-hour per pay period. He proposed
that the City reject this offer. He indicated that someone within
the city would have to keep a record of this leave bank, from year
to year, as well as whether or not employees desire to contribute
to the bank, which would place a burden on the city. He indicated
there is no cap on how many hours can be accumulated. He stated
that if someone left the city and wanted to take this time they
have earned there might be a problem. Also, there could be a
problem if an employee had a falling out with the union and wished
to get his leave hours back. He indicated there might be a problem
internally. He indicated he feels this could be an administrative
burden. He requested the city reject this proposal .
Jimmy Hill, Vice President, of the Atlantic Beach Division of the
Jacksonville Beach Professional Fire Fighters indicated union pool
time has no significant financial impact, if any, on the city. He
indicated the union is not asking management to give them time but
to "hold" time. He agreed this will require some secretarial
involvement. He indicated this program would be beneficial and
indicated if a fire fighter is severely injured he would be able to
draw from this pool and this would keep him from going bankrupt. In
addition, this time would allow a member to attend a funeral or
function on behalf of the unit. He indicated this time can never
be sold back if it is not used; it sits there forever. He
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indicated it will never be sold or spent in cash returns. Each
person will have a choice of whether or not they want to give to
this pool; this is strictly voluntary, he added.
After some discussion it was determined the city would like to put
a cap on the number of hours that can be put into this bank and the
city would like the Fire Chief to have discretion to approve leave
time.
Motion
It was moved by Commissioner Fletcher, seconded by Commissioner
Waters, to approve Union Time Pool and to place a cap of 216 hours
on the amount of hours to be placed in this pool . The city has
the right to review this each year and eliminate it if it becomes
an excessive administrative burden to the city.
Vote
Roll Call resulted in the following by Commissioners: Edwards, no;
Fletcher, yes; Tucker, yes; Waters, yes; and Mayor Gulliford, yes.
Motion carries by 4 to 1 vote.
Longevity Pay
Mr. Hill indicated he has a critical manpower shortage in the Fire
Department and he indicated longevity would be an incentive for
people to remain with the city. He indicated historically fire
fighters leave after five years and he indicated this longevity
would be a way to keep these employees. It was determined that
after five years a firefighter would get $25 per month and after
each additional five years he would get an additional $25 per
month.
Mr. Dickinson indicated no other employees in the City enjoy this
longevity pay. Currently, this is at the discretion of the City
Manager and is based upon outstanding performance. He indicated it
has been the City' s position that merely passing time in one' s job
is not enough to grant longevity and he indicated the step system
the City uses basically is a means by which people are rewarded.
He requested the Commission reject the union' s proposal .
Motion
It was moved by Commissioner Tucker, seconded by Commissioner
Edwards, to accept the City' s recommendation to reject the union' s
proposal.
Discussion:
Commissioner Fletcher indicated his feeling that while this is a
very valid issue, it is "peeling off one small piece of the pie"
and that he prefers to look at the contract in its entirety at a
later time.
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Vote
Roll call resulted in all ayes by Commissioners: Fletcher, Tucker,
Waters, Edwards, and Mayor Gulliford. Motion carried.
Employee Meals and City Vehicle Use
Mr. Dickinson indicated currently there is a practice of allowing
members to use a truck to get food and bring it back, and Mr.
Dickinson recommended maintaining this current practice. The union
would like to use the city' s vehicle, go to a restaurant, eat, and
come back to the fire station. The union contends that in the
event they had a call they would be able to respond to the call
from the restaurant. Mr. Dickinson indicated he feels a fire truck
should not be parked in front of a restaurant, but should only be
parked on city property. The union is also asking for discretion
to use city vehicles in special assignment situations. Mr.
Dickinson stated the Chief, only, should allow the use of city
vehicles. Mr. Dickinson referred to Page 45 of the Employee
Handbook that speaks to the use of city vehicles and he indicated
it clearly states vehicles should only be used for official duties.
Mr. Dickinson recommended the union' s proposal be rejected.
Mr. Hill indicated the union' s proposal is verbatim out of the
City' s Personnel Rules and Regulations Handbook, 1986 . He
indicated fire vehicles must be driven daily and an occasional
break during the day to take a lunch break would allow the vehicle
to be driven. He indicated this break during the day would be a
relief for the fire fighter from the long shift work they must
work, and that there would be no delay in response time. The only
restaurants that would be used would be located in Neptune Beach
and Atlantic Beach.
There was a long discussion concerning Special Assignment Vehicles
and whether or not members should be allowed to use these vehicles
for personal business.
Motion
It was moved by Commissioner Waters, seconded by Commissioner
Fletcher, to allow bargaining unit members to use a city vehicle
for transportation to and from eating establishments in Atlantic
Beach or Neptune Beach. This motion includes Article 12 . 1 of the
Union' s Proposal dated May 14, 1991 in its entirety but excludes
Article 12.2 .
A long discussion ensued and it was stressed that should this
motion pass the Commission would trust the professional integrity
of the members to ensure that response time would not be affected
during the time members would be at an eating establishment.
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Substitute Motion
It was moved by Commissioner Waters, seconded by Commissioner
Fletcher, to add the following language to the motion: The Fire
Chief will have discretion as to when Members shall leave the Fire
Station for lunch.
Vote on Substitute Motion
Roll Call vote resulted in the following by Commissioners: Tucker,
no; Waters, yes; Edwards, no; Fletcher, yes, and Mayor Gulliford.
yes. Motion carried by a 3 to 2 vote.
Working out of Class
Mr. Hill indicated when a member works out of class in a higher
classification he takes on liability and thus should be paid at a
higher rate of pay. The union is asking for a 15% difference in
class and this will coincide with the union' s pay proposal . Mr.
Hill indicated when a Lieutenant is off somebody must assume
command and as it presently occurs that man is not compensated.
Mr. Dickinson indicated often times engineers perform lieutenant ' s
work or fire fighters perform engineering functions on a day to day
basis. Basically the shift is made up of two fire fighters, an
engineer, and a lieutenant. The lieutenant is the shift commander.
Under this article the assigned person would be automatically
entitled to a 15% increase regardless of the amount of time he
performed the out of class function. Someone in a managerial
position has to keep track of this and has to be able to control
when to initiate this 15% increase. Under the circumstances in the
fire department, this is totally unworkable and will be a large
expense and it is requested that the proposal be rejected.
Commissioner Fletcher asked if there is a cost factor to which Mr.
Hill indicated this would be an abstract figure. Mr. Hill asked
that the union be allowed to hold parity with the police
department. It was indicated in the Police Department a patrolman
in charge is bumped up 5% when he works out of class after he works
a minimum of four consecutive hours.
Motion
It was moved by Commissioner Waters, seconded by Commissioner
Fletcher, that an employee who is temporarily assigned work in a
higher classification shall be paid for a full shift at a
differential at 5% higher than his normal rate of pay.
Mayor Gulliford indicated the appropriate time to discuss this
would be prior to budgeting and to establish as best as possible
what the actual cost might be.
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Vote
Roll Call vote resulted in the following by Commissioners: Waters,
yes; Edwards, no; Fletcher, yes; Tucker, no, and Mayor Gulliford
no. Motion defeated 3 to 2.
Automated Payroll Deposit
Mr. Dickinson indicated the union is proposing a system where the
city direct deposit payroll checks into the financial deposit of a
member' s choice. There was some discussion relative to this and
it was decided that 100% of a paycheck cannot be direct deposited
into a financial instution but that a percentage of a paycheck can
be direct deposited into a financial institution.
Motion
It was moved by Commissioner Tucker, seconded by Commissioner
Waters, and passed, to allow the bargaining unit members to request
automatic deposit of a percentage of their payroll check into the
financial establishment of his/her choice.
Vote
Roll Call vote resulted in all ayes by Commissioners : Edwards,
Fletcher, Tucker, Waters, and Mayor Gulliford. Motion carries.
Court Leave
A long discussion ensued regarding this and the intent of the
union' s proposed language concerning this issue, which is Union' s
Article 20. 1 and 20. 2 . The intent of the union was to keep
language contained on Page 29, Article 11 . 6, Personnel Rules and
Regulations, October 1986, in their proposed contract, but this
was inadvertently left out. In order to ensure that the intent of
this language is clear the following three issues were agreed upon
by the union and the city: if a member has to go downtown on any
litigation related to city business he will be compensated, if a
member has to go downtown on jury duty he will be compensated, but
if a member has personal business that involves litigation for
whatever purpose he will not be compensated.
Motion
It was moved by Commissioner Tucker, seconded by Commissioner
Edwards, to adopt the city' s proposals on court leave.
Commissioner Fletcher asked for clarification of the motion. It was
determined that the motion to be voted on speaks to the City' s
proposed Articles 15 . 10 and 15 . 11, which do not speak to Jury Duty.
Vote
Roll call vote resulted in all ayes by Commissioners: Fletcher,
Tucker, Waters, Edwards, and Mayor Gulliford. Motion carries.
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Second Motion
It was moved by Commissioner Fletcher, seconded by Commissioner
Tucker, to add an article to the contract that would grant the same
benefit of jury duty during normal working hours, as follows: that
the employee shall receive full pay equal to the normal work
schedule for the hours they attend court. Any witness or jury pay
received shall be returned to the City. The location of this
article into the contract shall be at the discretion of the City.
Motion
Roll call vote on the second motion to add an article to the
contract granting the same benefit of jury duty during normal
working hours resulted in all ayes by Commissioners: Fletcher,
Tucker, Waters, Edwards, and Mayor Gulliford. Motion carries .
Personnel Reduction
Mr. Dickinson indicated the language the union is requesting
restricts management ' s ability to reduce the work force. The
language states management may reduce the work force "only in the
instance of lack of funds. " The language also states any reduction
would have to be based upon seniority and nothing else. In other
words, quality of work, past evaluations, ability, etc. , would not
be issues that management could take into consideration. Mr.
Dickinson requested that this proposal be rejected as restricting
the management rights that have already been agreed to in the
contract.
Mr. Hill indicated that the intent of the article is to prevent
personalities from entering into the reduction of work forces
should a lay off situation arise, requiring reduction in the work
force to be by seniority only. First in, last out would be how the
work force would be reduced and Mr. Hill indicated it was not the
intent of the union to restrict management ' s rights.
Commissioner Fletcher felt that some consideration should be given
for the qualifications of workers when a decision such as this is
made. Mayor Gulliford indicated this language takes away the
discretion of management.
Motion
It was moved by Commissioner Edwards, seconded by Commissioner
Tucker, that the City Commission accept the recommendation of the
Labor Attorney and reject the union' s proposal .
Vote
Roll call vote resulted in the following vote by Commissioners:
Tucker, yes; Waters, no; Edwards, yes; Fletcher, no; Mayor
Cutlrford, -no. - Motion-defeated by-3-to 2 vote: Mayor Gulliford, yes .
Motion carried by 3 to 2 vote . (See minutes 2/10/92) .
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Prevailing Rights
Mr. Hill indicated this is very common language and speaks to
privileges and working conditions that are enjoyed by the
employees. He indicated this addresses basic details that are not
addressed in the contract.
Mr. Dickinson indicated the basic reason of concern is that the
city is being asked to waive its right to bargain over rights,
privileges, and working conditions which are not designated in the
article. The city would like more specificity, and thus requests
that the language be rejected.
Mr. Hill indicated the language is in fact specific and that this
speaks to priviledges that have always been enjoyed by members.
The City Attorney was asked for his opinion and he indicated he did
not think it was in the best interest of either side to leave the
language as it is because it is too "open-ended. "
Commissioner Waters indicated it is his understanding that this
language has been incorporated into the contract so that the
members can protect the few rights they have that have not been
taken away. Commissioner Waters attempted to make a motion to
accept this article; however, Mayor Gulliford indicated that he
would like a legal opinion from the City Attorney pertaining to
this language before he entertained any motions.
The City Attorney indicated the language is legal but it would be
in the best interest of everyone if the union would be more
specific concerning the rights covered by this article. He
indicated the Union' s language is too vague.
Mr. Hill stated this is basic language in a lot of contracts that
has never been challenged.
Motion
It was moved by Commissioner Waters, seconded by Commissioner
Fletcher, that the city accept the unions Article 28. 1, as written.
Vote
Roll call vote resulted in the following by Commissioners: Waters,
yes; Edwards, no; Fletcher, yes; Tucker, no; and Mayor Gulliford
no. Motion defeated by 3 to 2 vote.
Career Development
Mr. Dickinson proposed that the city reject this proposal because
there is provision in Florida State law dealing with the actual
attainment of a degree, and because of the expense involved to the
city.
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Mr. Hill indicated the union' s language was taken from the
contracts of other city governments.
Motion and Vote
It was moved by Commissioner Fletcher, seconded by Commissioner
Tucker, and passed, that members of the bargaining unit who possess
a Fla. State Certification for Fire Safety Inspector will receive
$100.00 per month incentive pay. In order to receive this the
member must perform safety inspections. Motion carries.
Second Motion
It was moved by Commissioner Fletcher, seconded by Commissioner
Waters, that the City adopt the Union' s proposed Article 31 with
the stipulation that members actually attain the Associate in Arts
Degree, and defer funding until the upcoming budget cycle.
Vote
Roll call vote resulted in all ayes by Commissioners: Edwards,
Fletcher, Tucker, Waters, and Mayor Gulliford. Motion carries.
EMT and Paramedic Incentives
Mr. Hill indicated the union is asking for a $25 increase in EMT
incentive pay. Currently members receive $50 per month.
Mr. Dickinson indicated the city is proposing $50 per month
incentive pay for those bargaining unit employees who are certified
in EMT. When it comes to the actual pay for going to school to be
certified the city is paying members at their regular rate of pay.
The union is proposing that this rate of pay be at the overtime
rate. Mr. Dickinson indicated the city in its proposal does not
cover any incentive for paramedics because the city does not
require that the staff be paramedics.
Mayor Gulliford asked Mr. Hill when the city first had a certified
EMT to which Mr. Hill replied since in the 1970 ' s. A long
discussion ensued concerning EMT ' s and the need for their expertise
in medical emergency situations.
Commissioner Fletcher summarized the differences in what the union
is asking for and what the city is proposing: The current rate for
EMT is $50 and the union is asking for $75; the union is asking for
time and one-half pay when a member attends the necessary school to
maintain his certification and the city is proposing to pay
straight time. It was determined this certification course is a 30
hour course and it must be repeated every two years.
Motion
It was moved by Commissioner Fletcher, seconded by Commissioner
Waters, in reference to the first part of the union' s proposed
Article 32, that the monthly incentive for EMT be increased to
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$75 .00 per month, as long as a member keeps his certification
active.
Vote
Roll Call vote resulted in all ayes by the following
Commissioners: Fletcher, Tucker, Waters, Edwards, and Mayor
Gulliford. Motion carries.
Second Motion
It was moved by Commissioner Fletcher, seconded by Commissioner
Waters, to give members time and one-half on off duty hours to
attend EMT school .
Vote on Second Motion
Roll Call on second motion resulted in the following by
Commissioners: Fletcher, yes; Tucker, no; Waters, no; Edwards, no;
and Mayor Gulliford, no. Motion defeated by 4 to 1 vote.
Amended Second Motion and Vote
It was moved by Commissioner Fletcher, seconded by Commissioner
Waters, and passed, to authorize payment of regular pay to attend
EMT school. Motion carries.
Training and Physical Fitness
Mr. Dickinson explained that the union is proposing that all
training hours scheduled outside the normal working schedule of the
members be compensated at the member' s overtime rate of pay.
The city disagrees with pay at overtime rate.
Mr. Hill explained the intent of the union is to maintain training
as it has been in the past. Mr. Hill indicated if a member is
asked to come in to train and he is not supposed to be at work it
should be considered to be overtime. Mr. Hill indicated this
article will tie into Hours of Work and Overtime in the proposed
contract.
Commissioner Fletcher indicated this article should be included in
the Hours of Work and Overtime Article.
Motion and Vote
It was moved by Commissioner Fletcher, seconded by Commissioner
Waters, and passed, to approve Article 33 as proposed by the union
with the amendment that the compensation will be determined as set
forth in the Hours of Work and Over Time Article. This issue will
be addressed at the same time Hours of Work and Over Time is
addressed. Motion carries .
Mayor Gulliford suggested that since it was 10: 15 p. m. and seven
articles remain to be discussed, that articles 12, 15, and 17 be
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discussed at another meeting. It was agreed upon by everyone that
Article 18, Duration of Agreement, will not be discussed.
Holidays
Mr. Hill indicated the union is asking for what is the present
policy of the city. He indicated there are changes or additions in
the union' s language.
Mr. Dickinson indicated the city proposed 8 hours compensatory time
for a member who works on a holiday. The union is proposing and
employees are presently receiving 10. 4 hours of compensatory time.
There was some discussion of how this figure was arrived at. The
union contended that the previous city manager installed this
hourly rate for the fire department but there was no documentation
from the previous city manager. It was determined that the
language in the union' s contract differed from the language
contained on page 51, Holidays, of the Personnel Rules and
Regulations, October, 1986 in that the Personnel Rules state 8
hours compensatory time and the union' s language states 10. 4 hours.
Commissioner Waters indicated that although this issue is not
properly documented, if it is changed it will work to the determent
of the firemen. He indicated he feels this language should remain
in the contract in order to be fair.
Motion
It was moved by Commissioner Fletcher, seconded by Commissioner
Waters, that the city continue with the practice of this
particular issue of holidays for the balance of this budget cycle
and to look at it anew at budget time.
Commissioner Waters indicated he feels very strongly that until
this matter can be straightened out the city should not take it
away because it is a perk that works in the financial favor of the
union. He indicated he thinks this should be worked out with a
monetary compensation in serious negotiations. Commissioner Tucker
indicated she has a problem with this issue because it is not
documented. She indicated she is not able to vote for something
just because someone made an error at one time. Commissioner
Fletcher indicated this was implemented by management and therefore
the union should not be penalized for this benefit they have
received over the years. The Mayor indicated that a precedence
has been established and he would like to know the cost that has
been involved. It was determined this practice was begun in 1987 .
Vote
Roll call vote resulted in the following by Commissioners: Edwards,
yes; Fletcher, yes; Tucker, no; Waters, yes, and Mayor Gulliford,
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yes. Motion carries 4 to 1.
City' s Articles 10.4 and 10.5
There was some discussion concerning the city' s proposed 10.4 and
10. 5, Holidays, and both sides were in agreement concerning these
two articles.
Motion and Vote
It was moved by Commissioner Fletcher, seconded by Commissioner
Waters, and passed, to approve the city' s proposed 10.4 and 10.5,
Holidays. Motion carries.
The Public Hearing will be continued Monday, February 17, 1992, at
5: 30 p. m. , and the remaining issues will be discussed in the
following order: 1 . Personal Leave, 2. On the Job Injury, 3 .
Compensatory Time, 4. Salary, 5. Hours of Work and Overtime.
There being no further business the meeting adjourned at
11 :00 p. m.
Maureen King, Cit Clerk
by Trudy Lopanik
William I . Gull' for: , Jr.
Mayor/Presidin. Of r cer