06-26-67 v CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLA.
COMMISSION MEETING
6/26/67
AGENDA
1 . Call to Order.
2. Invocation.
3. Approval of Minutes 6/12/67 .
4. Recognition of Visitors.
5. Communications:
(a) George Bull - Re: water service to property at
Corner Atlantic Blvd. & Florida Blvd. ,
Neptune Beach, Fla.
6: Reports:
(a) City Manager 's report.
(b) Report of City Manager on Reva Mae Silmon sewer line.
(c) Report of Mr. Tucker on Beach erosion.
(d) Sewer Plant Chlorinator.
(e) George Bull - Septic Tank application.
(f) Interconnecting water line with Neptune Beach.
(g) City Manager on Texaco Sewer hook-up.
(g) City Manager on Motel water and sewer service.
7 . Tax Roll - 1967 .
8. Ordinance - 2nd Reading
(a) Closing Street - Part of Beach Avenue.
9. Fire and Police Chief Reports.
10. Street resurfacing.
11. City Manager.
12. Commissioners.
13. Adjourn.
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MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE ATLANTIC BEACH
CITY COMMISSION HELD AT THE CITY HALL ON MONDAY, JUNE
26, 1967 AT 8:00 P. M.
Present:
William S. Howell, Mayor-Commissioner
John W. Weldon
Donald L. Goodling
Louis C. Holloway, Jr.
W. J. Parks, Jr. , Commissioners
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Frank Thompson, City Attorney
Murray H. Bennett, City Manager
Adele S. Grage, City Clerk
The meeting was called to order by the Mayor-Commissioner,
Mr . Howell.
The Invocation was given by Commissioner Parks.
Mr. Goodling stated he thinks the minutes of June 12, 1967
should reflect the City Attorney 's comments pertaining to
the City 's obligation, both moral and legal, regarding exten-
sion of water service outside City limits. Also, he feels
the way Mr . Holloway 's motion was stated isn 't clear as to
really what motion as passed passes. On referring to Clerk 's
notes of meeting of June 12, 1967 it was found motion is as
stated - Mr. Goodling then moved that the minutes of the
meeting of June 12, 1967 be approved as written with the
addition of the City Attorney 's comment on the North Atlantic
Beach water line, seconded by Mr. Parks and carried.
Mr. Howell recognized visitors and called for any business
from the floor not on the Agenda. There was none.
Mr. Glover Weiss asked if Item 8 of the Agenda covering
Public Hearing on Ordinance for closing of part of Beach
Avenue and an Alley in Block 36, Atlantic Beach, could be
considered next as a large number of those present came for
this. There being no objection, Mr. Howell presented the
Ordinance for closing a portion of the street known as Beach
Avenue and an Alley in Block 36, Atlantic Beach, and read
same in full. He then opened the meeting for Public Hearing.
Notice of Public Hearing was posted in line with Charter
requirements. Messrs. Charles Moore, Roy Nelson, William
Adams, Glover Weiss, Dewey Stynchcomb, Alan Potter, John
Reid, Mrs. William Adams, Mrs. J. B. Claiborne, Mrs. Charles
Moore, and Mrs. Mabel Marvin appeared against the Ordinance.
They object to closing the portion of Beach Avenue as it has
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been used for indefinite time as street although platted as
a ten foot Alley - and do not favor closing for interest of
one commercial establishment, but do not object to closing
Alley going from Ocean Boulevard to Beach Avenue in Block 36,
Atlantic Beach. Mr. George Bull spoke for passage of
Ordinance as thinks it will be impossible for Mr. Joe Adeeb
to have control of the parking at his establishment without
Alleys being closed. It was brought out in the lengthy
discussion that Mr. Adeeb owns all the property abutting both
portions suggested for abandonment. After lengthy discussion,
Mr. Howell declared the Public Hearing closed. Mr. Howell
inquired if any objection to closing the East-West Alley
running from Ocean Boulevard to Beach Avenue and there was
none, Mr. Goodling stated in order to bring the matter on
the table, he moved the Ordinance be passed on second and
final reading, seconded by Mr. Weldon. Mr. Weldon conferred
with Mr. Thompson who agreed the Ordinance cannot be divided
and just a part passed but could prepare new Ordinance
covering the East-West Alley should this one be defeated. .
There was further discussion by Commissioners in which it
was brought out that no formal plans filed for the future
development of the project but understand for present want to
use as parking lot for remodeled Sea Turtle Restaurant now
under construction on same lots. After further discussion,
Mr. Howell put the question and the motion failed to carry.
The Ordinance did not pass on second and final reading.
A letter was presented from Mr. George Bull representing Mr.
William D. Pascoe and requesting Atlantic Beach to supply
water to his proposed building on south side of Atlantic
Boulevard east of Florida Boulevard in Neptune Beach. They
anticipate that Neptune Beach will be unable to supply water
to this location and would undoubtedly give permission for
the City of Atlantic Beach to service water to this property.
The applicant would run the 1 " line from our 6 " main on Mayport
Road and under Atlantic Boulevard at their expense. Mr. Roy
Nelson inquired if something happened to the water line who
would be responsible for maintenance. The meter would be
placed on Atlantic Beach side of Atlantic Boulevard and our
responsibility would cease at the meter. Mr. Parks advised
that in order to clarify and continuing to answer Mr. Nelson,
it is basically matter as he sees it - whether or not we
attempt to serve property in Neptune Beach from City of
Atlantic Beach water department - to officially do that would
have to have a request from the City of Neptune Beach that we
serve property in their City limits that they were not prepared
to serve - the other approach is making the connection to the
main in Atlantic Beach and setting the meter at that point
on the north side of the road - this individual who buys
water through a meter takes possession immediately after
passes through meter. They would be charged Out-of-City
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rates. Mr. Weldon moved to authorize the applicant to arrange
for this installation without expense to the City of Atlantic
Beach, obtaining the approval of the City of Neptune Beach
for such service under an agreement whereby the City of
Atlantic Beach would assume no obligation whatsoever for any
interruption of the water in the future and at suburban rates,
seconded by Mr. Parks. Mr. Goodling advised he is opposed to
granting requests for water outside City limits and asked
City Attorney for opinion as to moral. obligation. Mr. Thompson
advised that as he understands it we are not strained for
water at that corner as might be in other areas - said once
undertook to furnish going to be right hard not to furnish -
if our main breaks on our side yes, but this pipe going over
from Atlantic Beach to Neptune Beach is his line, can pull out
any time - have no control, or responsibility in upkeep - all
of which embodied in Mr. Weldon's motion - from point of meter
over, he owns - we have obligation to our own citizens -
will have to fix main for them and fixing for him will be more
or less incidental. Mr. Bull advised a copy of his request
letter of June 20th had been sent to the City of Neptune Beach
and had also made application to Neptune Beach for service
asking if they cannot provide would then have obligation to
service being provided by Atlantic Beach. Mr. Goodling still
thinks improper to furnish outside City until all residents
in City are served. Mr. Weldon agreed with principal where
City money is involved, but here not one penny of City money
will be spent - make distinction where group outside asks
City to provide service at expense of City. After further
discussion the Mayor put the question and the call vote was:
Aye: Weldon, Howell
Nay: Goodling, Holloway, Parks
Whereupon the Mayor declared the motion defeated.
The City Manager 's report was read by Mr. Bennett, copy of
which is attached to these minutes and made a part hereof.
The City Manager read a report on Reva Mae Silmon 's sewer,
copy of which is attached hereto and made a part hereof. He
advised he has written letters to the property owners on
Richardson Lane. His only reply was from Mrs. Silmon. The
matter was discussed at length with Mr. Oliver Ball, Attorney
for Mrs. Silmon,advising that what they are interested in is
getting sewer. Mr. Goodling then moved that necessary
preliminary work in line with required procedure be presented
to the Commission at next meeting to provide sewer service
on Richardson Lane, seconded by Mr. Weldon. It was again
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suggested they make application for septic tank - but Mr.
Ball stated septic tank more expensive than sewer, then they
would still have to pay for sewer when installed. After
discussion the Mayor put the question and the motion carried.
Mr. Colin Tucker was unable to be here tonight but Mr. Howell
reported that Mr. Tucker has contacted Mr. Jack Weatherford,
Director of City-County Civil Defense, who is contacting OEP
on Beach renewal.
As regards sewer plant chlorinator, Mr. Parks advised we have
discovered a problem with pump control at water pumping station
that is relating to chlorinator at water plant and we are
determining best course for City and anticipate having proposal
for Commission which will include authorizing taking bids
for certain equipment at next meeting.
Mr. Bennett reported on water interconnections on Atlantic
Boulevard. The applications have been made to State Road
Department for permits to cross Atlantic Boulevard at Sherry
Drive and Seminole Road. This is first step needed before
can go further.
The matter of the Texaco Company connecting to our sewer
system was discussed at length. A temporary septic tank
permit was given at time they built, conditioned on their
hooking on to the City sewer when available. It is across
the street and a lateral or line will have to be built to
bring it to their property. After further discussion, Mr.
Weldon suggested we write Texaco that sewer line is available
and that the City is prepared to install a lateral, send
copy to State Board of Health, and if no results call upon
State Board of Health. The City Manager was asked to take
these steps.
There was a lengthy discussion of the fact that Bennett's
Motel has had its own well for years, and has been connected
to our sewer system since 1962. Mr. Weldon moved an Ordinance
be drawn that any citizen using sewer system also be impelled
to use City water if available for domestic purposes, seconded
by Mr. Parks. We do have an Ordinance that ordered connections
to our sewer system within 180 days after it was completed and
Bennett 's Motel had #41 permit. Mr. Thompson doesn't believe
can make the Ordinance stick. In view of this opinion, Mr.
Weldon withdrew his motion and Mr. Parks his second. Mr.
Thompson was requested to render formal opinion on this matter
at next meeting.
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It was advised that in line with Charter, the 1967 Tax Roll
is due to be opened for inspection the month of July and it
was requested postpone opening to month of August. Mr. Weldon
so moved, seconded by Mr. Holloway. Mr. Goodling feels have
known situation since preparing budget and the Commission has
dilly-dallied around - think unfortunate. Mr. Holloway
agreed with opinion. Mr. Howell then put the question and the
motion carried.
Chief Vogel presented Police dockets for the month of June,
1967, also reports of the Fire and Police Departments for the
months of April and May, 1967 . They were received for informa-
tion and filing. The Chief advised the radar has been repaired
and is now in operation.
Mr. Bennett read his report on street resurfacing advising he
considers the contractor has fulfilled their agreement 100%.
There was a discussion of why contractor failed to cover
existing pavement as every year with same type of specifica-
tions. Mr. Bennett stated they resurfaced in line with
specifications. It was voted at last meeting to accept
contractor 's offer to furnish hot-plant mix asphalt without
cost and use City labor to spread. The City Manager was
requested to contact Mr. McRae of Houdaille-Duval-Wright
Company to make arrangements to get hot mix to be put down
by City forces.
Mr. Bennett presented his resignation as City Manager
effective July 31, 1967. Mr. Parks moved that this resignation
be accepted with regret - Mr. Bennett has served Commission
for approximately one year and he has labored long to try to
accomplish certain things and any man's health can only stand
so much - with those comments would like to thank Mr. Bennett
for efforts, assistance, and again move that resignation be
accepted with regret, seconded by Mr. Holloway. Mr. Goodling
also expressed his regret. Mr. Weldon joined in expressing
his regret, stating that he would like to further say that
health of City Manager has been such that think very wise move
on his part and we trust that he will enjoy good health and
much happiness in the future. Mayor Howell put the question
and the motion to accept the resignation was carried.
Mr. Goodling noted the utility poles have been moved off
of East Coast Drive sidewalk. He moved that the City Manager
be authorized to write Jacksonville Electric Department
expressing appreciation - in particular mention the fine
cooperation of Mr. Charles Smith and Mr. W. C. Hicks, seconded
by Mr. Parks and carried.
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Mr. Weldon noted there are still a lot of double poles in
various sections. Mr. Bennett advised they are waiting on
Telephone Company.
Mr. Parks noted there are numerous potholes on Royal Palms
Drive between Plaza and Atlantic Boulevard - also grass
needs cutting on Selva Marina Drive median.
There being no further business, the Mayor declared the meeting
adjourned.
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During the last tw:+ weeks the :public Works Department has been
busy cutting the erase on city streets and starting to clean
lots throuhout thz .. ity.
Considerable time hart been spent doing work at both the jack
Russell and Donner. `see nave completed the concessi.)n
stand at the Jack Russell mark and have taken the old concession
, stand and put it on a concrete slab and have removed some of
' the plywood wal1e so as to make it an open shed to be used by
the children during rain stores.
At the Donner Ll r wc: nz ve teen !buildin i refit roame and have
installed 4 poles f-r lighting up'the ball eiamartr:. „i have
the flood lights for there ?oleo and are now in a position to
do the electrical 4:•es
There have been a num _4-r of complaints about the steps at the
street ends at t.hc :._u.e cl. .c :se have all Lien r ..,aire::j as of
June 21. .
The water reservoir wee cleaned and f lusred down on the night
of June 13.
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We have installed a sidewalk at ::a:•t Coast Drive and 10th Street.
The property owner fernishe:d all materials.
Many of the garbage containers were in bad condition, therefore
they have been repaired and repainted.
The 4-way story signs at Last Coast Drive and 10th street are
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working out very satisfactorily and I hale heard favorable
comments from a number of residents in this area.•
The Recreation Department at the Jack Russell and Donner Parks
• is working out very satisfactorily and we are getting a good crowd
of children at both places.
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The life guards that are ander the supervision of the Chief of
Police are doing an excellent job. We are"blesacd " with a number
of runouts in our area which the guards are trying•to keep the
• bathers away from. 2ossibly these runouts will improve before
. the summer is out, making safer bathing on the Mach.
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June 21, 1967
REPORT ON REVA MAE SILMON'S SEWER LINE -
Attached find copy of letter written to Reva Mae Silmon's
Attorney, Mr. Hucker, and a copy of a quotation for
constructing the sanitary sewer line to the properties on
Richardson Lane.
There are 5 lots that will be involved in the construction
of this sewer line, two of them belonging to Mrs. Silmon
and one to her brother Dudley Silmon on the opposite side
of the Lane. The other two lots belong to Donald Wallace
and Robert Golden, as shown on the attached sketch.
Art Reinertson Construction Company has quoted $985.00
to make this installation.
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City Manager
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June 21, 1967
REPORT ON STREET RESURFACING 1967 - SPECIFICATION 67-5
The Houdaille-Duval-Wright Company completed the street resurfacing
on May 18, as per Specifications #67-5.
These specifications were made up the same as specifications set up
in former years by specifying the street, the length of the street
to be resurfaced and the width of the street.
Before this job was started Houdaille-Duval-Wright had Pittsburgh
Testing Laboratory make up a sample of the type 2 asphalt mix for
analysis. The Hubbard-Field stability test at 140° gave a test of
of 3250 pounds with a 6.5% asphalt. The test that they ran during
the installation of this street resurfacing turned out to be 3175
pounds stability. The State Road specifications are 1500 pounds
minimum.
Houdaille-Duval-Wright completed the streets to be resurfaced to
the width as we showed on our specifications, and if the pavement
was wider than the dimensions that we gave them, then it was not
their prerogative to increase the width of the street to compensate
for this wider pavement.
I am satisfied that Houdaille-Duval-Wright followed our specifica-
tions completely, but to stop any future disagreements it would
be advisable to change our specifications in Item 1 where we
designate the street, the length and the width, and just designate
the street and the length only, eliminating the width.
I personally have not contacted Houdaille-Duval-Wright regarding
the installation of extra width for these streets, knowing full
well that they followed our specifications and measurements
completely.
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City Manager
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June 26, 1967
Honorable Mayor and Commissioners
City of Atlantic Beach
Atlantic Beach, Florida
Gentlemen;
Kindly accept my resignation as City Manager of The City
of Atlantic Beach; terminating as of July 31. 1967.
,incerely yours.
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Murray H. Bennett, City Manager
City of Atlantic Beach
Atlantic Beach, Florida
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