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Fwd- QuadFoam 500 NatureSeal ESRGentlemen, I just spoke with Ken Allison from TPR-2 (I’m not sure of his connection with Quadrant, but I know him to very knowledgable. We agreed that a thermal barrier is required throughout the building, in some form as we discussed earlier on site. We also agreed that I was wrong about the ignition barrier. No additional spray-on coating is required in attics if the thermal barrier is present and continuous. I read Section 4.4.2.1 wrong. As it stands now, someone should walk the project and specify ceilings and compartmentalized attic spaces to ensure a continuous thermal barrier between the spray foam and the interior of the building. I’ll help if you want me to. It will be Friday or next week for me Regards, Dan Arlington From: stannagle [mailto:stannagle@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 11:53 AM To: Arlington, Daniel; Danny@rpcgc.com; dbolena@idimn.com Subject: RE: Fwd: QuadFoam 500 NatureSeal ESR Dan Representative from quadrant Foam will be calling you today. There is no thermal barrier to be sprayed on this foam unless the area is considered "storage". Areas that are occupied must have sheetrock or be sprayed, attic areas do not fall under this requirement. The only situation that would be different would be a mechanical room etc Sent viGalaxy S™II Skyrocket™ an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone. "Arlington, Daniel" <darlington@coab.us<mailto:darlington@coab.us>> wrote: Stan, Regarding thermal barriers; as far as I know, there are no spray foam insulations that do not require a thermal barrier, per FBC-B, Chapter 26. Regarding ignition barriers; some spray foam products have passed that limited burn test, allowing them to be applied without the ignition barrier. The thermal barrier is always required, whether or not the ignition barrier is required. The Evaluation Services Report (ESR) is the document referenced to determine the above requirements for each specific product. Your ESR, IAPMO-0285, clearly states that both the ignition and thermal barriers are required. Passing the required tests in AC-377 only allows the product to be used subject to its limitations, not unprotected. Pete and Danny; please make sure the ongoing construction does not cover the spray foam insulation until this issue is resolved. The ignition and thermal barriers are a life safety issue and must be applied to all foam surfaces to be effective. If you would like to walk the project and discuss areas that can separated, covered, and/or sealed off to reduce the amount of spray-on barrier coatings, I am available Friday of this week or any day next week. Let me know. Sincerely, Dan Arlington From: STAN NAGLE [mailto:stannagle@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 3:28 PM To: Arlington, Daniel; Danny Rodrigues Cc: Pete Rodrigues; Hubsch, Jeremy Subject: Re: Fwd: QuadFoam 500 NatureSeal ESR Dan, I am the insulation contractor on the ABCC job. We have spoken before awhile back when you were with St. Johns county. I will forward this on to my supplier and get you the correct document. I know that this foam has passed the testing and is no longer required an additional barrier. Will handle this asap. Sincerely, Stan Nagle President Energy Seal Corp. 888-306-3626 energysealtoday.com ________________________________ From: "Arlington, Daniel" <darlington@coab.us<mailto:darlington@coab.us>> To: Danny Rodrigues <Danny@rpcgc.com<mailto:Danny@rpcgc.com>> Cc: "'stannagle@yahoo.com' (stannagle@yahoo.com<mailto:stannagle@yahoo.com>)" <stannagle@yahoo.com<mailto:stannagle@yahoo.com>>; Pete Rodrigues <Pete@rpcgc.com<mailto:Pete@rpcgc.com>>; "Hubsch, Jeremy" <jhubsch@coab.us<mailto:jhubsch@coab.us>> Sent: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 2:32 PM Subject: RE: Fwd: QuadFoam 500 NatureSeal ESR Danny, ESR-0285 is the relevant document. Reading Section 4.3: -A thermal barrier is required between the spray foam and the interior of the building. -1/2” gypsum wall board qualifies as a thermal barrier. -If the ½” gyp board is not present, 4.3.2 applies, DC 315 with the DC 135 primer is required. Coating thickness and amounts required are given. Reading Section 4.4: -An ignition barrier is required in attic spaces, in addition to the thermal barrier below. -A spray on thermal barrier also counts as an ignition barrier. -A lesser coating of DC 315, without the primer, is allowed as an alternative to the prescriptive ignition barrier. As I read 0285: A thermal barrier is required between the spray foam and the interior of the building throughout the building. Where attics are created by the gypsum ceiling, an ignition barrier is required in the attic space above. Where attic spaces interconnect, the more stringent coating is required. Wood ceilings and drop-in ceiling tiles do not qualify as a thermal barrier. Sprinkler systems do not negate the above requirements. Please discuss this with the Architect and Insulator and call me with any questions. I called the manufacturer and verified this, before writing this email. Let me know. Sincerely, Dan Arlington From: Danny Rodrigues [mailto:Danny@rpcgc.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 8:17 AM To: Arlington, Daniel Cc: 'stannagle@yahoo.com' (stannagle@yahoo.com<mailto:stannagle@yahoo.com>); Pete Rodrigues Subject: FW: Fwd: QuadFoam 500 NatureSeal ESR Dan, Here is the information Stan sent me on the spray foam insulation. I believe you should find what you are looking for in these attachments. Please let us know if there is anything else you need from us on this. Thanks Danny Rodrigues Superintendent RPC General Contractors, Inc. 248 Levy Road Atlantic Beach, FL 32233 (904) 241-4416 (904) 241-4427 fax danny@rpcgc.com<mailto:danny@rpcgc.com> www.rpcgc.com<http://www.rpcgc.com/> This e-mail is intended for the addressee shown. It contains information that is confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review, dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by persons or unauthorized employees of the intended organizations is strictly prohibited. From: STAN NAGLE [mailto:stannagle@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 4:37 PM To: Danny Rodrigues Subject: Fw: Fwd: QuadFoam 500 NatureSeal ESR Sincerely, Stan Nagle President Energy Seal Corp. 888-306-3626 energysealtoday.com ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Denis Bolena <dbolena@idimn.com<mailto:dbolena@idimn.com>> To: "stannagle@yahoo.com<mailto:stannagle@yahoo.com>" <stannagle@yahoo.com<mailto:stannagle@yahoo.com>> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 1:28 PM Subject: Fwd: QuadFoam 500 NatureSeal ESR Attached is the test data and IAPMO ES report stating no ignition barrier is required for Quadrant 500 NatureSeal. Denis Bolena 904-635-9472 IDI Jacksonville > > >