03-22-21 Commission Workshops' 'u MINUTES
Commission Workshop Meeting
Monday, March 22, 2021 - 5:00 PM
fiL y r Commission Chamber
ATTENDANCE:
Present: Ellen Glasser, Mayor- Seat 1
Bruce Bole, Commissioner- Seat 2
Michael Waters, Commissioner- Seat 3
Candace Kelly, Commissioner- Seat 4
Brittany Norris, Mayor Pro Tern/Commissioner- Seat 5
Also Present: Shane Corbin, City Manager(CM)
Brenna Durden, City Attorney(CA)
Donna Bartle, City Clerk(CC)
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Glasser called the meeting to order at 5:00 p.m.
1. TOPICS - CHAPTER 23 PROTECTION OF TREES AND NATIVE VEGETATION
A. Public Comment
Stephen Fouraker expressed concerns regarding cutting down trees in COAB. He
acknowledged the excellent work of the Environmental Stewardship Committee (ESC).
Michael Kulik provided comments on the redline version of proposed updates on
Section 23-21(2). He also commented on the City of Atlantic Beach Recommended Tree
List, Shade Trees.
Susanne Barker spoke about the importance of bringing awareness and education to the
community regarding the tree canopy.
Carole Schwartz explained what trees mean to her. She made suggestions on rules and
regulations regarding trees. She commended the ESC.
Jane Wytzka spoke about the loss of trees over the years within the City. She suggested
the City monitor which trees are removed. She commended the ESC.
Mayor Glasser closed the Courtesy of the Floor.
Commission Workshop
March 22,2021
B. Staff Presentation of proposed Chapter 23 updates
Mayor Glasser requested PCDD Askew to report on input provided to the ESC, issues,
and concerns that require further discussion.
CM Corbin stated the Commission continues to hold a meeting regarding Chapter 23
updates to gain as much public input as possible.
PCDD Askew presented a PowerPoint presentation of proposed changes (which is
attached hereto and made part of this Official Record as ATTACHMENT A)
PCDD Askew stated public input appears in favor of the changes to mitigation. She read
a list of the recommendations made to this point.
ATTACHMENT A - Presentation by PCDD Askew
C. Commission Discussion - Q & A
Commissioner Norris made the following recommendations/comments:
categorizing the changes or expand the categories
add an additional category for teardowns/redevelopments suggesting creative
building
ESC should not handle appeals
add specific rules for a vacant undeveloped lot
staff to work on revision in the attempt to expedite the deadline for the ESC
unsure how to license all companies cutting down trees
Commissioner Waters stated the importance of finding a balance for current residents
loving and respecting the current trees and new residents not sharing the same opinions.
Commissioner Bole reiterated the importance of property owner rights. He stated he
would support a City approved certified Arborist to assist with enforcing the Code, and
it would be of value to the residents.
Commissioner Kelly stated the goal is to stop the teardowns of lots. She is in favor of
the education outreach regarding this topic.
Mayor Glasser stated the consensus of the Commission is to provide a stronger tree
ordinance to preserve and protect the tree canopy. She stated the goal is to create a long-
standing Ordinance to resist the appeal of future Commissions. She requested to compare
the City of Neptune Beach Tree Code Ordinance in relation to the COAB. She stated
this is a test of Home Rule, and further State regulation is a possibility. Also stated, she
disagreed with Commissioner Norris regarding the ESC handling appeals. She stated,
in her opinion, the ESC does not handle appeals, instead reviews the process of the
permit.
Commission Workshop
March 22,2021
She stated further discussion should be had regarding additional categories regarding
undeveloped properties and teardowns.
Mayor Glasser asked the Commission if ESC could provide comments.
Bruce Andrews, a member of ESC, commented on mitigation examples and the need
for a strong Ordinance with equal balance.
Dan Giovannucci, a member of ESC, commented on the intent of a strong ordinance.
Mayor Glasser thanked the ESC.
Further questions and discussion ensued regarding additional topics.
Mayor Glasser emphasized the public to provide input and encouraged public
interaction. She also suggested a Joint Workshop with the Commission and the ESC in
the near future.
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Glasser adjourned the meeting at 6:16 p.m.
Attest:
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Donna L. Bartle, City Clerk Ellen Glasser, Mayor
Date Approved: 7/1 /i
Commission Workshop
March 22,2021
ATTACHMENT A
3/22/21 Commission Workshop Minutes
Chapter 23 Status Report
February joint Commission and ESC
meeting
ESC tree subcommittee - 2 meetings
since joint meeting
Proposed Changes to Chapter 23
Recap of Issues with Current Code :
Confusing i
Difficult to Enforce
Creates Loopholes
Doesn't protect larger trees
No incentives to keep larger trees
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Comments from Commission/ESC/Community
Code Comments Who
Section
23-12 (2) Changed from city's community forest to Commission
maritime forest
23-14 Add arborist to tree trust fund City suggested /ESC
subcommittee does
not agree with
inclusion
23-14 (2) Three (3) year provision regarding Commission
maintenance difficult to enforce. Added
some clarifying language
23-21 (2) Requirements of State Statutes —Remove ESC tree
exact language from Florida State Statutes. subcommittee
Added general language that can be used if
FSS is changed.
23-21 (2) Who & how enforcement will happen - Commission
modify to refer to Section 1-11 —
misdemeanor and 23-46 violation section
Comments from Commission/ESC/Community
Code Comments Who
Section
23-23(b) Revise and clarified permit review ESC tree
procedures subcommittee
23-23 Add back standards for review ESC tree
d)(2)subcommittee
23-23 Add reconsideration of permit application ESC tree
d)(3) decision subcommittee
23-25 Revise appeal procedures — to follow 24-49 ESC tree
subcommittee
23-33 (b) Remove palm tree column and combine ESC tree
with trees DBH less than 14 inches subcommittee
23-33 Add footnote to mitigation table ESC tree
subcommittee
Code Comments Who
Section
23-34 Three (3) year provision regarding Commission
maintenance difficult to enforce. Added
some clarifying language and who/how
enforcement
23-46 Violation section — clarify who and how — Commission
add language regarding Section 1-11 —
misdemeanor
23-52(c)(1) Change quorum requirement from majority ESC tree
of members to half of currently filled seats subcommittee
23-52(g) Appeals section ESC tree
subcommittee
23-41 Historic corridor — defined and add a map Commission
Code Comments Who
Section
General Add consideration for builders Commission
comment errors/unknowing homeowners and long
time homeowners
General New home construction and removal of Commission
comment large # trees vs. small additions/remodels —
mitigation and tree preservation credit 23-
33 (d)
Proposed Changes ( Global Overview)
Clean up definitions and language : Consistent terminology, add &
remove definitions, clarify conflicting or unclear language, etc.
i.e. "regulated" vs. "protected"
Change which trees are considered regulated
Change/clarify which trees receive preservation credit
Increase the required mitigation
Allow Tree Fund money to be spent on private property (front
yards)
Change appeals process
Address mitigation for tree removal on undeveloped lots
Add language addressing recent state legislation
Regulated Trees
Current Definition : Proposed Definition : (Remove
a. A DBH of six (6) inches or more on 10k thrPsh^or '
residentially zoned property that will e a. All trees with a DBH of six (6)
be removed two (2) years prior to or
l; inches or more on residentiallytwo (2) years subsequent to
Zoned ro ert
construction valued at over ten p p y
thousand dollars ($10,000.00);
Confusing for public 4 Easier to follow and
Difficult to track & enforce understand
Creates loopholes ( remove Easier to enforce
trees & wait two years) Eliminates loopholes
Disproportionate results
Will result in more
Leaves many larger
protected treeshardwoodsunprotected
Preservation Credit
Current Language for Pres . Proposed Change :
Credit : Eliminate preservation credit, EXCEPT
Existing onsite trees that are three that New Residential Development
3) inches DBH or greater and will receive a :
which are neither protected nor 25% reduction in overall mitigation for
transplanted may be utilized as every "designated maritime species"
credit towards the assessed that is 14"+ dbh that is preserved, up
mitigation, subject to the other to a 50% reduction or 40 inches
conditions stated in this section, if whichever is less
preserved onsite"
Leftover" language from Creates incentive to preserve
original Tree Code with large hardwoods during new
buildable areas, etc. home construction
Generally, results in all
Would onlyapply to property
unprotected trees receiving
with an open permit for a new
reservation credit
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Required Mitigation
0 ESC Proposed Changes: Increase mitigation and create new categories
CLASSIFICATION OF
CATEGORY OF CLASSIFICATION OF REGULATED TREE
PROPERTY
Diameter at breast Diameter at breast
height {DBHI less height (DBHI of
Protected
than fourteen (14) fourteen (14) inches Heritage
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trees incluoing, palm trce5
Private parcels 1:12 1:1 1.5:1 21:1
Public rights-of-way,2:1 2:1
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Historic corridor 2:1 2:1 3:1
Inches to be mitigated = inches removed (ex. 1.5:1 is mitigation ratio of 1.5" to every 1" removed
Requ i red Mitigation Examples from Real Permits
Existing Code Proposed Code
Total Mitigation Mitigation
diameter Owed Planting Payment Owed Planting Payment
Inches s" owed for 1"Example Example 1.5" owed for 1" Example Example
Removed removed)removed)
or or
General Tree Plant three (3)
Plant nine (9)
24" 12" 1,728 36"4" caliper 5,184
Removal 4 caliper oaks
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Inches Owed Example Example Owed Example Example
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Tear Down and Plant twenty Plant sixty six
Development 212" 106"seven (27) 4" $15,246 262" 66) 4" caliper 37,728
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Total Diameter
Mitigation Owed Planting Example
Payment
Mitigation Owed Planting Example
Payment
Inches Removed Example Example
New Home Built on Plant fifty four (54)
Plant one hundred
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Tree Fund Monies
Used to plant trees within the city
Trees must be planted on public property
Proposed Change : Allow trees paid for by the Tree Fund
to be planted on private property
Only in front yards, or side yards on corner lots
Encourage shade trees that impact public spaces. Often times
utilities/powerlines prohibit planting in public right of ways
Property owners would agree to maintain ( reduce city
maintenance costs)
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Appeals Process
s Current Code : Generally, all appeals or request for relief from the
code go to the City Commission
On very limited occasions, appeals go the Tree Subcommittee (of the
ESC)
Existing code
Proposed Change: All appeals or requests for relief would be
heard by the Tree Subcommittee. Appeals of their decision would
then go to the Community Development Board and further
appeals to the City Commission.
Tree Subcommittee is knowledgeable of and familiar with the tree
code (existing & proposed)
Undeveloped/Vacant Lots
City Commission directed ESC & staff to address
mitigation for lots that haven't been developed
These lots are often overgrown with vegetation T.3a
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Higher than usual mitigation required when
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Often not enough room on-site to replant the
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required mitigation
Proposed Change: Allow applicants to
plant trees on private property within 1/
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in 20+ years
Recent State Legislation
Local Gov. cannot require a permit or mitigation for the removal of
a tree on private property if the property owner obtains
documentation from an arborist or landscape architect that the
tree presents a danger to persons or property.
Proposed Language :
2) Notwithstanding any provision in this Chapter to the contrary. the city may not require a notice.
application. approval. permit, fee or mitigation for the pruning. trimming. or removal of a tree on
residentially used property if the property owner obtains documentation from an arborist or a
Florida licensed landscape architect that the tree presents a danger to persons or property.
Documentation must be obtained by the property oy.vner prior to the tree removal and must note
that the removal of the tree is necessary due to it presenting a danger to person or property. The
documentation must be made available to the administrator within three (3 ) business days from
the date of request. Falsification of such documentation is a serious offense that is subject to
prosecution and may also be reported to the relevant certification body.
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