02-19-85 v MINUTES OF THE ADVISORY PLANNING BOARD
CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH
February 19, 1985
7:00 P.M.
CITY HALL
Present: W. Gregg McCaulie, Chairman
Guy M. Jennings
Ron D. Gray
Ruth Gregg
Commissioner John W. Morris, Jr.
And: Richard C. Fellows, City Manager
Rene' Angers, Recording Secretary
And: Chuck James
Robert Gittings
James Jaffa
Chairman McCaulie called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. He asked if
there were any comments or corrections to be made to the minutes of the
January 15, 1985 meeting. There being none, Ron Gray motioned that the
minutes be approved as presented. Ruth Gregg seconded the motion which
carried unanimously.
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NEW BUSINESS
Item V1 - Request for Rezoning - Bull Brothers, L.T.D.
Chuck James, Ahern and Associates, stated that he represented the
petitioners in the request for rezoning. He stated that the property is
located on the east side of Mayport Road at Assissi Lane. He stated that
they requested two zoning classifications; Commercial General fronting
Mayport Road and RG-3 Multi-Family east thereof. The commercial area
would be used for a motel. The franchise is owned by Quality-Comfort
Inn. The motel would have a maximum of 108 roams. Fred Adams, 1860
Live Oak Lane, introduced himself as one of the owners. He stated that
Quality Inn had expressed a desire to also have a 24 hour breakfast type
restaurant on the property.
At that point Ron Gray declared a conflict of interest and stated that he
would not vote.
Chairman McCaulie asked what was anticipated for the RG-3 area, parcel B.
Mr. James replied that it would be apartments and that the only access to
the development would be from Mayport Road.
Commissioner Morris asked if the parcels would be developed simultaneously
and what the time frame would be. Mr. James replied that they would not
be developed simultanesouly and they could not presently commit to a time.
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Guy Jennings asked what was planned for the storm drainage through the
property. Mr. James replied that the City's engineers would dictate
the requirements. He added that there is a ditch that runs through
the property that controls some of the drainage in Atlantic Beach and
that the City may desire an easement.
Ron Gray stated that he was against the proposal in light of the fact
that the Board is reviewing the overall zoning of the entire Mayport
Road corridor. Chuck James replied that their plan is compatible with
the recommendations of the City of Jacksonville's Planning Department,
adding that the boumdar.ies were changed due to the ditch.
Commissioner Morris stated that he had no problem with the motel on the
site, but he may argue the RG-3 zoning due to the density.
Ron Gray asked what they could do under the existing sewer moritoriun.
Mr. James replied that they could begin construction with the contingency
that they hook up when the moritoriLml is lifted.
Louis MacDonell, 1535 Selva Marina Drive, stated that the pattern on
Mayport Road is that it is going to be some type of commercial. He felt
that the CG would be a good buffer to the RG-3 area and that the drainage
ditch would be a good buffer between the two. He added that the request
is a logical and proper use and that the growth is there, whether we like
it or not.
Johnny Tucker, 42 Eleventh Street, reinforced what Mr. MacDonell said..
He added that the rule of the highest and best use of the land should
apply; they should be able to develop the land in order to maximize the
income in order to pay for the high price of the property. He said there
are a great deal of people working on the base on a temporary basis and
it would be convenient for them to have a motel close to the base, He felt
the plan would cut down the traffic on Mayport Road because some people
would be stopping at the motel/development rather than traveling the
entire distance of Mayport Road.
Commissioner Morris stated that it is refreshing to have something other
than mini-warehouses or convenience stores take an interest in Mayport Road.
Chuck. James stated that RG-2 would be agreeable for parcel B rather than
RG-3. Be amended the request to RG-2 on parcel B.
Guy Jennings stated that the request seems to be consistent with what the
city wants in the area. Recognizing that the city is affected by some
parts of the drainage in the area, Mr. Jennings motioned to recommend
approval of the request for rezoning of parcel A to CG and parcel B to
RG-2, contingent upon the recommendations of the City's engineers in regards
to the drainage.
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Ruth Gregg seconded the motion which carried unanimously. Ron Gray
abstained.
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Item #2 - Request for Rezoning - Vincent and Mary DeSalvo
Mr. Robert Gittings, 1 Independent Drive, stated that he represented the
petitioners. He stated that they wish to rezone the property on the
northwest corner of Mayport Road and Levy Road to Commercial General
for a Hardees Restaurant. He stated that they had been waiting for
three months for the master plan of Mayport Road and that they wished
to proceed with the rezoning process. He stated that the request is
the same as the recommendations of the City of Jacksonville's Planning
Department. He added that there is a need for a quick service
restaurant on Mayport Road.
There being no one else to speak for or against the request, Ruth Gregg
motioned to recommend approval of the request for rezoning from ILW to
CG. Ron Gray seconded the motion which carried unanimously.
Item #3 - Review of Proposed Changes to Aquatic Gardens
Mr. James Jaffa introduced himself and presented plans of the proposed
changes to Aquatic Gardens subdivision. He stated that they were building
the same basic house, but were separating the garage and making it an
option, and rather than being of concrete construction, the units would
be constructed of energy efficient wood frame. He added that they would
have a two hour firewall as opposed to the original plans with a one hour
firewall.
Chairman McCaulie asked the reason for having garages as options. Mr.
Jaffa replied that it was due to cost; a unit with a garage would be
priced aproximately $7,000. more.
Guy Jennings said he wasn't sure garages would add to the aesthetics of the
subdivision, but thought they were good to have for storage.
Ron Gray asked if Mr. Jaffa had clear title to the subdivision. Mr. Jaffa
replied that Duval Federal has forclosed and taken the deed in lieu, He
said there were details that they were in the process of settling.
Ron Gray asked Mr. Jaffa if he would consider a provision requiring a certain
number of units to have garages. Mr. Jaffa replied that it would be an
economic restraint that could be devastating. He reminded the Board that
Fairway Villas Subdivision was approved with garages as an option.
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Ruth Gregg asked if the subdivision would be fenced-in. Mr. Jaffa replied
that it would probably have to be enclosed. Mrs. Gregg stated that there
would have to be a back gate so the children could get to school without
going onto Atlantic Boulevard. Mr. Jaffa stated that there is an open ditch
there. Guy Jennings informed Mr. Jaffa that there are provisions for an
access over the ditch. Mr. Jaffa replied that it's required at the option of
the city and that Duval Federal holds a bond for the bridge, should the
city desire that it be constructed.
Mr. Jaffa felt that because the property is not under a PUD zoning, it
was not a consideration of the Advisory Planning Board. Mr. Fellows
stated that the Board has site plan review privileges as it relates to
the subdivision's internal automotive activities, including offstreet parking.
Guy Jennings reminded the Board that, under the present zoning, Mr. Jaffa
could come in with a plan for an apartment complex with no garages.
Ruth Gregg stated that the Board might as well let him do it. She motioned
to recommend approval of the changes. Guy Jennings seconded the motion
which carried. Ron Gray voted against the recommendation.
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OLD BUSINESS
Rezoning - Mayport Road Corridor
Commissioner Morris stated that the Advisory Planning Board had previously
recommended adopting the proposed plan, but noting that CI would be
eliminated in the entire city, the Board recommended that some CI uses be
incorporated into other classifications. He stated that the Commission had
referred it back to the Board for a more specific recommendation; to determine
which CI uses should be incorporated into the other classifications.
Mr. Bud Gross, Bud's Automotive, asked if he could sell his busines if it
was determined to be a non-conforming use. Ron Gray stated that he would
be grandfathered-in, and that he could sell it as long as the use is not
discontinued for a period of six months or longer. Mr. Gross asked whether
he could enlarge a non-conforming building. He was informed that he could
not add onto or alter the building except as required by law.
Herman Williams, 20 Donners Road, asked if it was the intent of the rezoning
to do away with paint and body shops. Commissioner Morris assured him that
it was not the intent to do away with paint and body shops.
Willie Davis, 780 Bonita Road, who owns a grandfathered-in cabinet shop
on Simmons Road, wanted to know if his property would be included in the
commercial zoning district. It was determined that his property falls outside
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of the commercial zoning boundary line. Commissioner Morris asked why
the line couldn't be moved to include Mr. Davis' property. Guy Jennings
replied that the purpose of zoning is to implement a plan, it is not
to accomodate people who have businesses in areas that perhaps you do not
want a business.
Ruth Gregg suggested that the Board members get out and walk Mayport Road
before making any recamnendations. Ron Gray motioned that the Board hold
a meeting for the purpose of viewing Mayport Road so that the Board could
make an intelligent recommendation. Guy Jennings stated that the City
of Jacksonville's professional land planners had performed a visual
land use survey of the area. He asked why the Board is going to go out
and second guess the experts.
Chairman McCaulie stated that he thought the Board had been asked to look
at the Commercial Intensive uses that should be incorporated into the
other classifications.
Ron Gray withdrew his motion. He then motioned that the Board hold a
special workshop to ascertain which CI uses will be allocated to CG, CL,
and ILW zoning classifications. Chairman McCaulie seconded the motion
which carried unanimously.
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There being no further business to come before the Board, Chairman
McCaulie declared the meeting adjourned at 10:25 p.m.
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