12-07-82 v • MINUTES OF THE ADVISORY PLANNING BOARD
OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLORIDA
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December 7, 1982
7:00 PM
City Hall
PRESENT: W. Gregg McCaulie - Chairman
Ron Gray
Ruth Gregg
Guy Jennings
Commissioner John W. Morris
AND: A. William Moss - City Manager
Mary L. Dombrowski - Recording Secretary
AND: Mr. Bob Retherford
Mr. Sydney McLean
Mr. Chuck James
Ms. Eileen Olson
Ms. Joanne Pullon
The meeting was called to order at 7:10 PM by Chairman McCaulie, who requested
the board to direct their attention to the first item on the agenda:
Further consideration of Planned Unit Development, Fairway Villas, which was
tabled from the last meeting of November 16, 1982.
The chair called for comments or questions from the board, or any new alternatives
to be presented by Mr. Chuck James.
Mr. Gray questioned code compliance concerning the secondary access (i.e. Water
Plant road) , stating that he felt it wouldn't accomodate two (2) cars. He felt
that the road should be upgraded and asked Mr. James if he was willing to do that.
Mr. James remarked that the actual travel distance was eighty feet (80') and that
he had no plans to upgrade that road. Mr. Moss responded to Mr. Gray's question
of code compliance by stating that he would defer that matter to the City Engineer.
Engineering criteria would be reviewed by the City Engineer on the whole project.
Mr. James stated that a twenty foot (20') wearing surface was typical of city
requirements.
Mr. James presented a new site plan (attached as part of the minutes) dated
October 5, 1982, which increased the green area from 1.6 acres to 2.20 acres. He
indicated an additional change had been made regarding the lot size on lots fronting
on Mayport Road (from 95' to 85' in length). However, they were not able to achieve
playground space on this particular PUD, however, they had tentative. plans to develop
the property north of the water plant up to the city limits, with a playground just
north of the water plant.
A lengthy general discussion ensued regarding the ownership of the drainage ditch
traversing the northwest undeveloped portion of Atlantic Beach which is east of
Mayport Road; the possibility of obtaining a utility easement at the rear of Mr.
James's property which would not be a condition for obtaining PUD approval; the
square footage requirements within acceptable range so as not to set a precedent,
but in consideration of the unique circumstances of the property; the PUD intent
as stated in the Land Development Code regatding variances from PUD requirements;
acceptable reduction from code requirement of 25% to approximate 23. green area;
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clarification that this PUD for Fairway Villas was a separate PUD and not Phase I
of future development plans; City Engineer's review and approval of engineering
for site and water plant road; Commissioner Morris's suggestion to allow 50% of
homes at 1000 sq. ft. and the remaining 50% at 900 sq. ft. .
The chair called for a motion since there was no further discussion. Mr. Gray
made the following motion:
To approve the plan subject to the development of 50% of the
homes having 1000 sq. ft. and the remaining 50% to contain
900 sq. ft. , due to the fact that this is such an unusually
shaped property. Subject to the City Engineer's approval
of the Water Plant road. The board accepts the second sub-
mittal dated October 5, 1982, which shows an updated survey
containing an increase from 1.6 acres of green area to 2.20
acres of green area; thereby accepting a reduction from the
25% green area requirement to approximately 23%. Approval
also includes the requirement of a berm or privacy fencing
on those properties facing Mayport Road, and sidewalks within
the project on the westerly properties as the developer in-
dicated.
The chair seconded the motion, which was approved unanimously.
The chair declared a five (5) minute recess before continuing with the agenda.
8:31 PM.
The chair reconvened the board at 8:36 PM, stating that the next item on the
agenda was:
Further consideration of the setback requirements for corner lots which was
tabled from the last meeting of November 16, 1982. (Refer to Page 2-14, Lot -
Corner Definition and Pages 3-20 thru 3-33 for minimum yard requirements.)
Three suggestions were submitted to the board for consideration. A lengthy
discussion took place regarding the pros and cons of each alternative.
The chair invited Mr. Bob Retherford of 2025 Art Museum Drive, Jacksonville,
Florida, to provide the board with his opinion of the most workable setbacks.
Mr. Retherford replied that he would like to see a 71' and 12' side setback
with 20' in the front and rear. This would allow adequate buildable area
which would be marketable and not restrict traffic visibility. Mr. Sydney
McLean of 2743 Chilton Avenue, Jacksonville, Florida, concurred with Mr. Rether-
ford's suggestion, stating that the existing ordinance made 2/5 the of the
property unavailable to build on, which he felt was extremely restrictive.
Mr. Moss informed the board that these gentlemen had applied to the Board of
Adjustments for a variance on their particular lot in the Saltair section,
which was denied because their intent was to vary significantly. He felt that
the new ordinance wasn't bad, however, it mandated a different type of structure.
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Mr. Retherford replied that they had withdrawn their request and that it had
not been denied.
Mr. McLean remarked that the existing ordinance is more restrictive to corner
lots than interior lots and was actually confiscating 2/5ths of the lot by
setbacks.
Mr. Gray questioned the rationale regarding changing the setbacks from the old
to the new zoning. Mr. Moss replied that there were conflicts in various parts
of the ordinance and this was determined as a compromise which they found in
other city's ordinances.
After a lengthy discussion, the chair called for a motion. Mr. Jennings made
the following motion:
To amend the code to reflect the setbacks assigned to
corner lots as follows:
Front yards - 20'
Rear yards - . 20'
Interior side - 7'6"
Exterior side - 15'
This would allow for a 1656 square foot home (27'6" x
60' ) which would provide a 33% density.
Mrs. Gregg seconded the motion, which was approved unanimously.
The chair recommended that the board table any consideration of the next item
"Home Occupations" until the next meeting. This was agreeable to the board.
Mr. Jennings made a suggestion that the Advisory Planning Board either appoint or
refer the need to the City Commission to appoint a citizens group to serve as a
"Mayport Road Committee" to study the general area for future growth. After
general discussion, it was determined that Commissioner Morris would get some
direction from the City Commission as to procedure and/or need. Commissioner
Morris did remark that it was within the Advisory Planning Board's purview to
discuss this matter themselves (refer to Page 3-3 !IA) , however, he suggested to
Mr. Moss that this be put on the City Commission agenda for consideration. The
board was in favor of this recommendation and approved unanimously.
There being no further discussion before the board, the chair declared the meeting
adjourned. 9: 38 PM.
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W. Gr- • • cCauE_- Chairman