04-16-85 v MINUTES OF THE ADVISORY PLANNING BOARD
CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLORIDA
April 16, 1985
CITY HALL
7:00 P.M.
PRESENT: W. Gregg McCaulie, Chairman
Mrs. Ruth Gregg
Ron Gray
Commissioner John W. Morris, Jr.
AND: Richard C. Fellows, City Manager
Joan LaVake, Executive Secretary
AND: Heywood A. Dowling
Daniel T. Crisp III
Louis B. MacDonell
ABSENT: Guy M. Jennings
Rene' Angers, Recording Secretary
The meeting was called to order at 7:05 p.m. by Chairman McCaulie.
Ron Gray motioned that the minutes of the Special Workshop meeting of
March 12, 1985 and the regular meeting of March 19, 1985 be approved
as presented. Ruth Gregg seconded the motion which carried unanimously.
There Was a brief discussion on the status of the rezoning of the
Mayport Road corridor. Chairman McCaulie asked for the Commission's
opinion regarding rezoning during the overall rezoning of the Mayport
Road corridor. Commissioner Morris stated that they had no objection.
Chairman McCaulie called the Board's attention to the New Business
before the Board.
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NEW BUSINESS
Item #1 - Request for Use by Exception - Heywood A. Dowling; Contractor,
No Outside Storage in a Commercial General Zoning District.
Heywood Dowling, 149 Beach Avenue, stated that he was requesting a use
by exception in order to lease a structure that would be built on Lot
841, Saltair Section 3, to a plumbing contractor. He stated that the
contractor would have no outside storage, and the building would be
designed with a garage for the storage of the trucks and tools. He
added that the garage door would not open to the north side which faces
residential lots.
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Ron Gray was concerned that this would be a pluMbing supply house, with
contractors bringing their trucks there on a daily basis. Mr. Dowling
stated that it would not be a plumbing supply house, but a plumbing
service. He stated that the company had only two trucks and that most
of their business is made over the telephone.
Commissioner Morris brought up the point that the permitted uses in CG
zoning are high-traffic uses, and that this use is a low-traffic use
that would be compatible with the residential area.
Chairman McCaulie recognized Mr. James Floyd from the audience. Mr. Floyd
stated that he lives at 473 Sturdivant Avenue, across from the lot in
question. He was concerned about the location of the parking. Mr. Dowling
stated that the trucks would be parked inside the building or behind the
building. Mr. Robert Fields, North Beach Restaurant, 461 Atlantic Boulevard,
stated that if the trucks were parked behind the building, it would detract
from the appearance of his restaurant. He thought this was a good use
for the property but did not want the trucks to park behind the building.
He stated that he would like to see a site plan.
Ron Gray stated that he would also like to see a site plan before making
any recommendation. He motioned that the request be deferred until the
next meeting so that Mr. Dowling could prepare a site plan. Ruth Gregg
seconded the motion which carried unanimously.
Item #2 - Request for Rezoning - Mrs. Edna Johansen; LeChateau Property
For the record, Chairman McCaulie stated that he was an acquaintance of
M . Crisp, the agent for Mrs. Johansen. He stated that there would not
be a conflict of interest. The Board agreed.
Mr. Daniel T. Crisp, III, 2849 Ionic Avenue, stated that they were
requesting to rezone the LeChateau property from commercial and residential
to RG-3 for the construction of a 12 unit condominium.
Mr. Al Alkin, 165 8th Street was concerned that the right-of-way, north
of the property, would end up like the one south of the Cloisters.
Mr. George Pepway, 140 8th Street, wanted to know if the right-of-way
would be closed. Mr. Crisp stated that they would "dress-up" the right-
of-way, either landscaping it or constructing a wooden walkway, but it
would not be closed.
Chairman McCaulie asked if two parking spaces per unit would be sufficient,
and asked where any guests would park. Mr. Crisp replied that the Fourth
of July was the only day that they anticipate a parking problem.
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Mr. Larry Birch, 697 Beach Avenue, was interested haw far the pool would
be setback from the bulkhead. Mr. Crisp stated that the pool had not
yet been located but it would probably be in the north half of the
property and setback approximately 20' from the bulkhead and 15' from
the structure. He stated that the structure would be setback about
50' from the bulkhead.
Commissioner Morris asked if the pool was necessary for the project.
He was concerned that the adjacent residential neighborhood would be
disturbed by pool parties that extend late into the night. Mr. Crisp
replied that the pool was necessary. He added that a homeowners
association would govern the hours that the pool would be open, and that
generally they close at 10:30 or 11:00 p.m.
Ron Gray motioned to recommend approval of the request. Ruth Gregg
seconded the motion which carried unanimously.
Commissioner Morris asked the height of the cupolas. Nom'. Crisp replied
that they exceed the 35' height limit as provided in the code.
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Item #3 - Request for Rezoning - Bull Brothers, LTD.
Mr. Louis B. MacDonell, 241 Atlantic Boulevard, Neptune Beach, introduced
himself and stated that he represented the Bulls in their request for
rezoning. He stated that the request was to rezone two parcels on Mayport
Road to Commercial General and two parcels east thereof to RG-2. He
stated that it was compatible with the recently rezoned parcels in the
area. Mr. MacDonell gave a lengthy description of the development, stating
that it would be near a lake and a golf course, and it would have an
entrance over a bridge.
Chairman. McCaulie recognized Commissioner Cook from the audience. He asked
if there would be access to the development from Selva Marina Drive.
Mr. MacDonell replied that there would not be an access from Selva Marina
Drive.
Commissioner Morris was concerned about the density of so much RG-2 in the
area. He suggested breaking up the CG and RG-2 and having some CL and RG-1
mixed in. He added that it was too dense for one bridge as the only access.
Chairman McCaulie added that he was concerned about the increase in traffic
on Mayport Road.
Ron Gray motioned to recommend disapproval of the request siting the only
access to the development being across a bridge. He added that the Bull's
had agreed that when the Fairway Villas property was sold and developed
there would be green area/playground area in the parcel 3 property.
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At that point Mr. MacDonell withdrew the request. There was a brief
discussion. Mr. MacDonell asked the Board to vote on the motion.
The motion to recommend disapproval of the request was re-stated by
Ron Gray, seconded by Chairman McCaulie and carried unanimously.
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Request for permission to use a mobile home on a temporary basis at
North Beaches Family Practice & Acute Care Center
Dr. Masters, 270 Sixth Street, stated that the facility at 100 Royal
Palms Drive was no longer large enough for his growing practice. He
stated that they would be constructing a new office building next to
the Wellness Center in Neptune Beach but it would not be completed
until next year. He asked if the Board would consider allowing him
to move a mobile home next to his existing building on a temporary
basis. He added that it would be attached and would appear to be
part of the existing building. He added that it would be used for
office space not for patient care.
Ron Gray motioned to relay to the City Commission that the Advisory
Planiing Board has no objection to the mobile home subject to a one
year time limit. Ruth Gregg seconded the motion which carried
unanimously.
OLD BUSINESS
Consideration to Amend the Definition of Lot Coverage
After a brief discussion on the matter the Board asked the City Manager
to consult with other communities to compare lot coverage requirements
and report back to the Board at the next meeting.
No Action Taken
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Consideration to Amend the Definition of Lot, Corner
The Board determined that they had previously considered the definition
of corner lot and asked that the minutes be researched.
No Action Taken
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MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS
Ran Gray asked that the City Manager pass on to the Fire Chief that
the Fire Department did a commendable job at the recent fire at
51 Beach Avenue. He sited their quick response time.
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There being no further business to come before the Board, Chairman
McCaulie adjourned the meeting at 9:07 p.m.
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