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MINUTES OF THE ADVISORY PLANNING BOARD
OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLORIDA
June 21 , 1983
7 :00 P.M.
City Hall
PRESENT: W. Gregg McCaulie, Chairman
Ron Gray
Guy Jennings
Ruth Gregg
John W. Morris, Jr.
AND: A. William Moss, City Manager
Laurie Stucki, Recording Secretary
AND: Mr. Louis MacDonell
Mr. Doug Miller
The meeting was called to order at 7:05 p.m. by Chairman McCaulie who asked
the Board to direct their attention to the minutes of the meeting of April 19,
1983. The Chairman asked for any questions or comments regarding the minutes
as submitted; there were none. Mr. Gray made the following motion:
To approve the minutes of the meeting of April 19, 1983, as
submitted.
Mr. Jennings seconded the motion, which passed unanimously,
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NEW BUSINESS
The Chairman then asked the Board to move on to Item #1 on the agenda:
Application for Use by Exception by Mr. Louis MacDonell on behalf of Mr. and
Mrs. John Piombo to build an apartment complex on property just off of Mayport
Road.
Chairman McCaulie then asked Mr. MacDonell to identify himself and comment on
his application for Use by Exception.
Mr. MacDonell reminded the Board that they had heard his request previously in
another form. He stated that he had come before the Advisory Planning Board and
the City Commission with the request in the form of a Request for Zoning Change.
He outlined what had transpired, stating that the Advisory Planning Board had
approved his zoning change request, but that he had withdrawn that request
and resubmitted the proposal in the form of a Use by Exception.
Mr. MacDonell went on to explain that the complex would consist of 68 one-story
units that would be mostly one-bedroom and efficiency apartments. The complex
would be very well maintained, and he felt that it would prove to be an asset
to both Mayport Road and Atlantic Beach. Mr. MacDonell also stated that
Cardinal Industries would pave West 11th Street from Mayport Road to Orchid
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Street to provide access to the development.
Chairman McCaulie asked Mr. MacDonell why they had changed the plans from
64 to 68 units, and Mr. MacDonell replied that the plans were in a preliminary
stage at the time they had estimated 64 units, and now with the shape of the
land, and the street layout, etc. , it was a natural configuration with 68
units. A discussion then ensued regarding the RG3 zoning specifications for
units per acre and the definition of an apartment complex. Mr. MacDonell
agreed to abide by the requirements as spelled out in the RG3 (Multi-Family)
zoning specifications.
Mr. MacDonell also reiterated the point that the request to build the apartments
was simultaneous with the request to close West Plaza.
Chairman McCaulie asked if there were any further questions or comments; there
were none, so Mr. Jennings made the following motion:
Accept the request for Use by Exception for an apartment complex
and more specifically that this is a multi-family development and
will adhere to the RG3 guidelines. This motion is contingent on
the passage of the amendments to the City Code that are presently
pending. This motion also recommends approval of the closing of
West Plaza.
Mr. Gray seconded the motion, which passed unanimously,
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Chairman McCaulie asked the Board to direct their attention to Item PP2 on the
agenda:
Consider the final development plan of Fairway Villas as presented by Stokes & Co.
Chairman McCaulie asked if there was a representative for Stokes & Co. present
to comment to the Board on the final plans.
Doug Miller identified himself as the Vice President of England & Thims, the
engineer of record for Stokes & Co. Mr. Miller stated that the final development
plan was the same as the previously approved site plan.
Chairman McCaulie then asked if there were any questions from the Board regarding
this project.
Mr. Gray asked if there was any change in the ratio of green area; Mr. Miller
responded that there was no change at all in the plan.
Mrs. Gregg asked if the playground would be fenced; Mr. Miller stated that they
had not anticipated fencing it in. A general discussion then ensued regarding
the subjects of fencing the playground, the size and location of the playground,
and the anticipated use of the playground.
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Mr. Morris reminded Mrs. Gregg that the developer had given the Advisory
Planning Board just what had been asked for in terms of the playground and green
area. Mr. Miller stated that the playground would really be more of a passive
park than a "playground", i.e. , there will be no swings, slides, etc. Mr.
Miller also advised the Board that the park would be dedicated to the City of
Atlantic Beach. Mr. Morris voiced the concern that the playground/park would
not really be big enough for kids to play in and therefore would probably
become a dump to be maintained by the City. Mr. Morris further suggested that
the City might be better served to let the developer build a house on the lot,
rather than to make a potential problem area for the City. Chairman McCaulie
stated that the City requires a certain percentage of the development to be
designated as green area, and this playground/park would meet those requirements.
The Chairman also reiterated the point that the developer had only done what
the Advisory Planning Board had asked them to do. The Board had set up certain
conditions under which they would approve the project, and the developer had
adhered to these conditions. Mr. Gray responded that he also agreed with that
statement. Mr. Gray then made the following motion:
Approval of the final plans for Fairway Villas as presented.
Mr. Jennings seconded the motion, which passed unanimously.
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MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS
Mr. Jennings stated that he would like to make the Advisory Planning Board
aware of a meeting on July 6 on a proposed housing project north of the Atlantic
Beach City limits that Mr. George Bull is planning. This project is not in
Atlantic Beach's jurisdiction, but would greatly affect the City's neighborhoods
and roadways. A general discussion then ensued on this subject with Chairman
McCaulie making the following motion:
Advise the City Commission that the City of Atlantic Beach should
let the concerns of the citizens of Atlantic Beach be known to the
City of Jacksonville regarding this proposed development and what
impact it might have on the City of Atlantic Beach.
Mr. Ron Gray seconded the motion, which passed unanimously.
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Mr. Moss outlined some possible developments that are being proposed for
Atlantic Beach. These included a patio home development at 20th Street east
of Seminole Road to Selva Marina Drive and a single family home development in
the area of old Bull Airport.
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Mrs. Gregg brought up the subject of the potential traffic problem on Royal
Palm Drive due to the increased traffic flow from Publix and how to alleviate
it. A lengthy discussion then ensued on the subject with the general consensus
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being that the City should wait and see what the actual traffic situation is
when the Publix shopping center is built and then decide if there should be
something done about it.
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Chairman McCaulie asked if there was any additional business to be discussed;
there was none. Mr. Gray moved to adjourn the meeting; Mr. Jennings seconded
the motion. Chairman McCaulie declared the meeting adjourned at 8:13 p.m.
W. eg: eiltie, Chairman