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04-19-83 v • MINUTES OF THE ADVISORY PLANNING BOARD OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLORIDA April 19, 1983 7:00 P.M. City Hall PRESENT: W. Gregg McCaulie, Chairman Ron Gray Ruth Gregg Guy Jennings John W. Morris, Jr. , Commissioner AND: John M. Widdows, Building Inspector Laurie Stucki, Recording Secretary AND: Mr. Louis MacDonnell Mr. Burton Revels Mr. John Woleslagle Mrs. John Woleslagle Ms. Janet Palmer Mr. Marshall Dutton Mr. Jim4- 1` Mr. Phil Robinson Mr. Dan Martin Ms. Rita Ray The meeting was called to order at 7:04 p.m. by Mr. Ron Gray, who explained that Chairman McCaulie was not yet present and in light of the possible heavy agenda and the number of people in the audience, he would take the chair until Chairman McCaulie arrived. Mr. Gray then asked the Board to direct their attention to the minutes of the previous meeting of March 22, 1983. He asked for any corrections or objections to the minutes as presented; there were none. A call was made for a motion to approve the minutes as presented. Mr. Guy Jennings made the following motion: To approve the minutes of the meeting of March 22, 1983 as presented. Mrs. Ruth Gregg seconded the motion, which passed unanimously. Mr. Gray then turned the chair over to Chairman McCaulie who had arrived. Chairman McCaulie asked the Board to turn their attention to Item #f1 on the agenda: Request for change in zoning classification from CG to RG3 Multi-Family for property off of Mayport Road and the closing of West Plaza by Mr. L. B. MacDonnell. Chairman McCaulie asked Mr. MacDonnell to identify himself and provide any additional information on the proposed rezoning request. Mr. MacDonnell ADVISORY PLANNING BOARD April 19, 1983 PAGE 2 introduced himself as the agent for the owners of the property, Lillian and John Piombo, and explained that they had a contract for sale of the property to Cardinal Industries. This contract was contingent on getting the change of zoning classification. He introduced Mr. Burton Revels of Cardinal Industries who had materials and brochures of other Cardinal Industries developments that would be similar to this development project. Mr. MacDonnell went on to explain that he felt that the area would be better utilized with a Multi-Family zone than the Commercial zone since it is behind commercial property and in front of residential property and could serve as a buffer between the two. He also spoke of the need for the closing of the road in between the four blocks in question. He stated that there was confusion about which road that was--his map listed it as West 12th Street, and the City zoning map listed it as West Plaza. After much discussion on the subject, it was determined that it was, in fact, West Plaza. Mr. MacDonnell said that it was not really a road now, but that he believed that they still needed permission to close it. Mr. MacDonnell also stated that the other Cardinal Industries projects in Jacksonville were beautiful projects; they were well maintained, and this project would be quite similar. Chairman McCaulie asked Mr. MacDonnell if the developer had a site plan yet; they did not, but said that it would be ready very soon. Mr. Revels explained to the Board that Cardinal Industries did not do site plans this early in the project, but that when finished, the site plans would show 64 rental units in 4 acres (16 units/acre) which was well within the City of Atlantic Beach's Land Development Code requirements. He also stated that the develop- ment would be landscaped and well maintained and would be a very attractive addition to Mayport Road. Mr. Revels also informed the Board that Cardinal Industries intended to complete the paving of West 11th Street back as far as needed to provide ingress and egress to the development. He also stated that they planned to extend the sewer from West 11th Street to West 8th Street at their own expense, since that is the closest place they could tie in to City sewer lines to service their development. There was a general discussion on the ingress and egress to the development; the fact that the only entrance would be on West 11th Street. Mr. Revels explained that multiple entrances to developments such as this can constitute a traffic hazard in that people use some of the entrances as a cut through from one road to another, and it is potentially dangerous. Chairman McCaulie called for questions or comments from the members of the audience regarding this item on the agenda; there were none. He then asked for couuuents from the Board. Mr. Jennings commented on the fact that the community has a need for housing units due to the military, and this would serve a community need. He also agreed that it would create a good buffer between the residential area to the rear and the commercial property in front. Mr. Morris questioned the residents' feelings if the surrounding commercial property was developed into convenience stores and shopping centers. Mr. Revels assured the Board that the marketing program of Cardinal Industries developments depends on the surrounding area being commercial, because they promote the asset of being within walking distance to shopping areas. ADVISORY PLANNING BOARD April 19, 1983 PAGE 3 Chairman McCaulie then asked if there were any additional questions; there were none, so he then called 'for a motion. Mr. Guy Jennings made the following motion: To recommend to the City- Commission to approve the zoning change from CG to RG3 Multi-Family aid to close West Plaza. Mrs. Ruth Gregg seconded the motion, which passed unanimously. Chairman McCaulie requested the Board to move on to Item #2 on the agenda: Request for change in zoning classification from RS2 to RG1 for two lots in the Saltair subdivision by Mr. & Mrs. John Woleslagle and Watson Realty. Mr. Guy Jennings stated that he would abstain from discussion and voting due to a conflict of interest. Chairman McCaulie then asked the representative of Watson Realty to identify herself and state any additional comments she might have concerning the proposed zoning change. Janet Palmer of Watson Realty introduced herself and the owners of the property, Mr. and Mrs. John Woleslagle and explained that they had a contract for the sale of the property that was contingent on getting the property rezoned from single family to duplex. She also informed the Board that the buyer and builder would be Grenville and Meuse Construction Co. who builds many residences in Atlantic Beach. Ms. Palmer stated that G & M does high quality work and the townhomes would blend in nicely with the surrounding neighborhood. She also said that the property has been listed with Watson for over a year, and they have not been able to get a buyer because of the zoning. Chairman McCaulie asked the Board for any comments or questions; there were none, so he then asked the audience for their comments. Mr. Marshall Dutton of 176 Magnolia Street introduced himself as the spokesman for the neighborhood group in attendance. He introduced all the members of the neighborhood that were present. He stated that they had all been at the Commission meeting last year when the subject of rezoning part of the single family district of Saltair was brought up, and it was their understanding that there would never be any rezoning of that area. He cited crowded parking conditions and additional trash and mess associated with duplex areas. Mr. Jim Byrd of 297 Magnolia added that the master plan for the Saltair sub- division has a good balance of single family homes and duplexes, and there was no need for any spot zoning to upset this balance. Mr. Phil Robinson of 212 Magnolia said that he bought his property knowing where the duplex line was and that he was buying into a single family district. Mr. Dan Martin of 197 Pine Street also said that he had bought his property with the knowledge that it was a single family district, and he expected it to stay that way. He also said that he felt that the property values would decrease if duplexes were built in the single family zone. ADVISORY PLANNING BOARD April 19, 1983 PAGE 4 Ms. Palmer said that she would like to add that there has been no problem in selling single family homes that are near duplexes; they sell just as easily as if they were around other •single family homes. Chairman McCaulie asked if there were any more questions or comments from the Board. Mrs. Gregg said that she agreed with the residents about the crowded parking conditions prevalent in the duplex area. Mr. Morris added that he would like to commend the residents for being interested enough in their neighborhood to come out and voice their concerns. Chairman McCaulie asked if there was a motion; Mr. Ron Gray made the follow- ing motion: To disapprove the request for the change of zoning classification from RS2 to RG1. Chairman McCaulie seconded the motion, and it passed unanimously. The Chairman then asked the Board to direct their attention to Item 413 on the agenda: Site Plan Review for Atlantic Village Shopping Center (Publix) Chairman McCaulie acknowledged the presence of Atlantic Beach's Building Inspec- tor, Mr. John Widdows, and the engineer on the project for the City, Mr. Doug Miller of England & Thims. He then asked Mr. Dyer of Publix to identify himself and to answer any questions the Board might have. A discussion ensued concerning the parking facilities and handicapped parking spaces and ramps at the proposed shopping center. Mr. Dyer assured the Board that there would be ample parking and handicapped facilities. Mrs. Gregg then brought up the problem of the probable traffic congestion on Royal Palms Drive with the two entrances and exits on that street. The subject of access onto Aquatic Drive was also brought up with Mr. Dyer stating that the DOT had instructed the developer to make that access on Aquatic Drive. The Planning Board had the understanding that Aquatic Drive was a private street, and permission would have to be granted before an access could be made onto Aquatic Drive. A lengthy discussion also took place concerning the drainage and excess outfall from the shopping center. Mr. Doug Miller reiterated the point that there would be a great deal of excess runoff from the center, but that Atlantic Beach does not have a storm water ordinance, so the City has no grounds to tell the shopping center developer to do anything more than he has already done about the drainage. Chairman McCaulie asked if there were any additional comments or questions to be directed to Mr. Dyer; there were none. He then made the suggestion that the City Commission direct its attention to the following concerns discussed by the Advisory Planning Board: 1. The potential traffic congestion on Royal Palms Drive with the two entrances and exits to the shopping center in addition to the existing driveways from Pic N' Save, Jax Liquors, the Post Office, and the Acute Care Center. ,0. ADVISORY PLANNING BOARD April 19, 1983 PAGE 5 2. The question of access onto Aquatic Drive. The Board made the suggestion that the developer or his representative be present at the next City Commission meeting to clarify the agreement (if there is one) between the developer of Aquatic Gardens and Publix about the access to Aquatic Drive. 3. The problem of excess runoff and drainage from the shopping center. The potential problem being that the surrounding area could be flooded with this excess stormwater. Chairman McCaulie asked if there was any new business pertaining to the Advisory Planning Board; there was none. Mr. Gray made a motion to adjourn; Mrs. Gregg seconded it. Chairman McCaulie declared the meeting adjourned at 9:02 p.m. L(1030C,' Gre g i, :ulie, Chairman