11-07-83 v MINUTES OF THE ADVISORY PLANNING BOARD
CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLORIDA
November 7 , 1983
7 : 00 P .M.
City Hall
PRESENT : W. Gregg McCaulie , Chairman
Commissioner John Morris , Jr.
Ruth Gregg
Ron Gray
AND : A. William Moss , City Manager
Rene' Angers , Recording Secretary
AND: Charles Leonard
Doug Miller
Roger Sutton
ABSENT : Guy Jennings
The meeting was called to order at 7 : 05 p .m. by Chairman McCaulie .
He asked the Board to direct their attention to the minutes of the
previous meeting of August 16 , 1983 . The Chairman asked if there
were any comments or questions about the minutes ; there were none.
Mr. Ron Gray made the following motion:
To approve the minutes of the meeting of August 16 , 1983 as presented.
Mrs . Ruth Gregg seconded the motion, which passed unanimously.
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The Chairman called the Board' s attention to item #1 on the agenda.
Request for Rezoning, - Charles Leonard - from CG to RG-1
Mr. Leonard introduced himself and stated that he lived at 530 East
Coast Drive. He stated that he was requesting the rezoning because
Ahern Street (location of the property) is an off-street , therefore
the best use for the lot would not be a commercial building but a
duplex.
Chairman McCaulie asked the Board if they had any questions or comments .
Commissioner Morris asked Mr. Leonard if he was aware that the minimum
lot size to build on in Atlantic Beach is 5 ,000 square feet and that
he would have to go before the Board of Adjustment because his property
did not meet that requirement .
Mr . Leonard replied that he was aware of the requirement but his lot
was platted an odd size and that was all that he had to work with.
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Commissioner Morris asked Mr . Moss if it was proper to go before the
Board of Adjustment first.
Mr. Moss replied that he thought it would be more proper to come
before the Advisory Planning Board first , as it would be a mute
question for the Board of Adjustment if it wasn ' t zoned properly .
There was a general discussion of the Board members on the zoning of
property in the general vicinity.
Ron Gray stated that 5 ' would have to be cut off the size of the
building on the proposed diagram as the side setbacks would be a
minimum of 15 ' and not 10 ' as shown. Mr. Gray then made the following
motion:
To disapprove the request due to the size of the lot and the square
footage of the complex that Mr. Leonard wants to build.
The motion was seconded by Ruth Gregg.
Chairman McCaulie stated that in the past , the Board has allowed
applicants to withdraw their proposal to prevent them from being
exempt from asking for any other sort of relief within the next year
and that he would like to offer Mr . Leonard that same opportunity
unless there was an objection from the Board members .
There was no objection from the Board members .
Mr. Leonard asked the Board if he would still need a variance to
build a small office building on the lot .
Mr. Moss stated that because it is a substandard lot of record, he
would be able to build on it if it was approved by the Board of
Adjustment , at which time it would no longer be a zoning issue .
Charles M. Leonard, father of Charles Leonard, was recognized by the
Chairman. He stated that his large house at 530 East Coast Drive was
built on a substandard size lot and he wasn' t required to go before
the Board of Adjustment .
Commissioner Morris stated that it appeared to be in Mr . Leonard' s
best interest to withdraw his request , leaving the zoning as it is , and
apply for a variance from the Board of Adjustment to build on a sub-
standard lot .
Mr . Leonard withdrew his request .
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Chairman McCaulie called the Board' s attention to item #2 on the agenda.
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Request for Rezoning - Mary T. Bull - from CG to RS-1
Mr. Doug Miller of England & Thims introduced himself and stated
that he was the agent for AmFed Service Corporation who was requesting
the rezoning. Mr. Miller stated that the request was to rezone at
the highest level of zoning classification. He presented a color
coded location map indicating the surrounding zoning classifications ,
and stated that the proposed zoning would be compatible with the
existing land use . He added that they plan to substantially exceed
the lot size requirement for RS-1 zoning. He then presented a
conceptual plan and stated that they plan to follow it closely with
only a few minor changes . He stated that there were drainage improve-
ments that need to be made and that AmFed is committed to make those
improvements . He also stated that they are planning to relocate the
existing lift stations that are in Selva Marina Units 10 , 11, and 12.
They would be relocated on a permanent site at an expense of $70 ,000
to AmFed. Mr. Miller added that they plan to make improvements to
Selva Marina Drive between Saturiba and the entrance to the proposed
property to bring it up to city standards . He also stated that their
proposal is exactly what the City of Atlantic Beach is looking for
and that the surrounding residents would be pleased.
Mr. Miller then introduced Mr . Roger Sutton of AmFed Service Corporation
to entertain any further questions .
Mr . Charles M. Leonard asked if the fire and police protection would
be handled by the City of Atlantic Beach.
Mr. Sutton replied that they would have dedicated streets and that
they would be built in accordance with city standards and that fire
and police service is provided to all residents of the city .
Commissioner Morris asked Mr . Miller to be more specific on the
drainage issue .
Mr. Miller stated that they had completed studies on Units 10 , 11 and
12 to designate the specific drainage problems and specific improve-
ments that need to be made . He stated that all of the cul de sacs
dead-end at the south property line and they were proposing to pick
up the drainage at their south property line and have an improved
drainage way from there to the canal - approximately 1000 feet. He
stated that they also plan to relocate and improve an existing ditch
on the east boundary that is in poor condition to accommodate 100
acres of drainage that goes through Selva Tierra and Units 10 and 12 .
He stated that the improvements would be incorporated into the
subdivision and that it is necessary for the subdivision and necessary
for the neighborhood.
Mr. Gray asked the time frame involved for the project .
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Roger Sutton replied that they wish to begin the project by the
first of February, and that it would probably be built in two phases .
Mr. Gray asked Mr. Moss how this would effect the sewer system.
Mr. Moss stated that a single family development would not effect
the city substantially although it would increase the load.
Mr. Miller added that the sewer tap fees paid to the city would be
in excess of $100 , 000 .
Commissioner Morris asked if the drainage improvements would be
incorporated into the first phase of the project .
Mr. Miller replied that the phases would occur one right after the
other, and that the drainage construction would accomodate the first
phase of the project .
Ruth Gregg stated that there would be a great increase in traffic.
Doug Miller replied that the property was almost the last piece of
developable land of any size east of Selva Marina Drive in Atlantic
Beach and that there was no other plan or zoning that would be of
lesser density.
Chairman McCaulie recognized Mr. Glen Johnson of 367 19th Street.
Mr. Johnson stated that he was very enthusiastic about the proposal .
He asked if there was some way to integrate into their plan a way
to correct the drainage problem of the Hickory Lane area to start
the up-land flow as it should be .
Mr. Miller replied that it would be improved from the end of the
cul de sac to the property line and that the association could
undertake it and that it would be very inexpensive , requiring only
swales . He added that it is something that might be done as a
community/neighborhood effort.
Mr. Johnson' s next question was concerning the improvements to Selva
Marina Drive from Saturiba north.
Mr. Miller explained that they plan to do some realignment and some
intersection improvements particularly at 19th Street .
Mr. Johnson asked if they intended to sell to individuals or builders .
Mr. Sutton replied that they would sell primarily to builders , and that
they wish to maintain some type of architectural control so that they
would not have a reduction in quality. He stated that American Federal
had financed the majority of the Selva Marina area for the builders ,
and he felt they would continue with the same type of motif.
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Chairman McCaulie recognized Mr . Lionel Currier of 1927 Selva
Marina Drive.
He asked if a plan had been submitted for the realignment of Selva
Marina Drive .
Mr . Sutton replied that no plan had been submitted and added that
the character of the existing road enhanced their property and that
they only want to bring it up to the minimum standards .
Mr. Currier asked if they intended to put up a barrier of some type
between the existing sections and the proposed new subdivision.
Doug Miller replied that they didn' t expect to put up any type of
fence as the lots were very deep and heavily wooded.
The question of sidewalks was brought up by Ron Gray.
Doug Miller stated that they were not planning on having sidewalks
in the subdivision because they would lose too many trees and that
if they did have them they would not connect with any other sidewalks .
Ron Gray asked I'Ir. Moss if the Board could make a motion to approve
the request tying them down to something similar to the master plan.
Mr. Moss stated that by rezoning the property, the Board is passing a
law that says they can build on a lot with 75 ' frontage , and the
Board can not require them to have a larger lot than is required
anywhere else unless it is a Planned Unit Development.
Chairman McCaulie asked if there were any further questions or comments .
There being none , Ron Gray made the following motion:
To approve the request , subject to being in substantial conformity
to the master plan.
Ruth Gregg seconded the motion which passed unanimously.
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There being no further business before the Board, Chairman McCaulie
adjourned the meeting at 8 : 00 p .m.
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