2001-01-29 (meeting minutes) v 0 MINUTES OF THE JOINT WORKSHOP OF THE ATLANTIC BEACH CITY COMMISSION
AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BOARD HELD IN COMMISSION CHAMBERS AT
7:00 P.M. ON MONDAY, JANUARY 29, 2001
City Commissioners Present:
Rick Beaver, Mayor Pro Tem
Mike Borno
Theo Mitchelson
Dezmond Waters, City Commissioners
Community Development Board Members Present:
Karl Grunewald
Don Wolfson
Burkhart
Robert Frohwein
Sam Jacobson
Staff Present:
Jim Hanson, City Manager
George Worley, Community Development Director
111 Don Ford, Building Official
Maureen King, City Clerk
The meeting, which was held for the purpose of reviewing the draft of the proposed new zoning
ordinance, was called to order by Mayor Pro Tem Beaver. He advised those present that public
hearings would be held later at which time public input would be received and he requested that those
who would like to receive notification of those public hearings to provided their names and addresses
on the sheet provided.
Discussion ensued regarding satellite dish antennae (Sec. 24-171). George Worley pointed out that
the FCC regulated antennae of one meter or less in diameter on residential property and three meters
or less in diameter on commercial property. However, the Atlantic Beach code would apply to
larger dishes and may also apply to height.
P95 Add language recognizing that the Federal Communications Act of 1996 preempts local
zoning for smaller dishes. George Worley was requested to check into whether the height of
satellite dishes could be regulated. George Worley indicated he would provide Commissioner
Waters with the language of the FCC regulation.
P.96 No changes
P97 24-177( a) Robert Frohwein noted that no mention was made of how the value of
improvements was figured and George Worley indicated that cost estimates were submitted
with permit application, or estimates were based on the Southern Building Codes cost
110 estimates for construction.
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Commissioner Beaver inquired whether a monitoring system was in place to make sure that
landscaping was installed in accordance with the building plans and George Worley said that
landscaping was inspected before the Certificate of Occupancy(CO)was issued. Don Wolfson said
he wanted to make sure that the procedure was set up with checks and balances so that nothing
slipped through the cracks. Commissioner Beaver said he would like to see a follow up procedure
established to make sure that landscape is installed and then inspected six months or one year after
issuance of the CO to make sure that the landscape survives. Include definition of VUA under
definitions; also definition of visual screen.
P101(7) Discussion, but no changes
P102 No changes
P103 No changes
P104 Commissioner Beaver inquired regarding"reasonable time"and felt this language was
too vague. He said he would like to see a requirement that landscaping on
commercial property be maintained permanently. George Worley said that he felt the
language meant that landscaping would have to be required within a reasonable time
11111 as determined by the building official, following notice to replace dead landscape. It
was felt that the language of the ordinance should require dead landscaping to be
replaced within a specific period of time and it was felt that thirty days was a
reasonable time. Commissioner Beaver said that Port Orange required permanent
maintenance of landscaping and suggested Atlantic Beach look into the language of
their ordinance.
P105 No changes
P106 No changes
P107 No changes
P108 No changes
P109 No changes
P110 No changes
P111 No changes
P112 No changes
P113 The developer, when putting in streets, etc. would have install those streets in
accordance with city standards, and when installed, the developer would dedicate
those streets to the city and they would have to be accepted by the City Commission.
Commissioner Waters requested that Mr. Worley research this to make sure that
substandard streets cannot be constructed within the city whether or not it is the intent
of the developer to dedicate those streets to the city.
P114 No changes
P115 No changes
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P116 Commissioner Mitchelson suggested that the word all be inserted before the word
streets in section 24-221(1). It was felt that this matter was addressed in Section 24-
252.
P117 No changes
P118 No changes
P119 No changes
P120 No changes
P121 Commissioner Bomo inquired regarding required elevations and drainage patterns and
was advised that developers were required to include drainage patterns in their plans.
Regarding the development of individual lots,it was pointed out that property owners
would be required to comply with Chapter 6, and the Standard Building Code
prohibited runoff from being drained onto adjoining properties. Commissioner Waters
said he wanted to make sure that neighbors are protected from runoff when individual
lots are being developed. Following further discussion on this matter, it was
suggested George Worley check with Alan Jensen on State regulations regarding
this matter.
411 P122 No changes
P123 No changes
P124 No changes
P125 Street names and house numbers on corner lots. Karl Grunewald said there were
some locations where houses facing one street had an actual address on the other
street. It was consensus that street numbers be assigned in accordance with the front
door orientation. It was suggested that the Public Safety Director be consulted
regarding this from a safety perspective.
P126 No changes
P127 Correct scrivener's errors in 24-256(a) and (b)
P128 No changes
The Definitions section was then reviewed:
P3 No changes
P4 No changes
P5 No changes
P6 No changes
P7 Add definition of commercial vehicle
P8 No changes
P9 No changes
P10 No changes
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P12 Bob Frohwein had concerns regarding the definition of grade—i.e. how to measure
the 35 ft. height of building, especially where an older building is being demolished
to build new. It was pointed out the code addressed undeveloped property where a
grid is drawn on the property and readings taken at intersections. Mr. Frohwein felt
the grade should be calculated on the intersections outside the footprint ofthe original
structure. Following further discussion it was felt that staff should work further on
this and compare how other beach cities calculate height.
P13 No changes
P14 live entertainment—strike of the opposite sex.
P15 No changes
P16 No changes
P17 No changes
P18 No changes
P19 No changes
P20 No changes
P21 screening—after the word colored, should say not more than six feet
P22 No changes
P23 No changes
P24 Leave in definition of survey; Include definition of swale
P25 Add definition of VUA; add visual barrier—see screening
P26 No changes
Further discussion ensued and Mayor Pro Tern Beaver challenged city staff to see if there is a way
to allow a small boat to be parked in front yards without turning every yard into a parking lot.
Discussion ensued regarding issuing permits or other means which could be used to allow the
parking of boats. Commissioner Mitchelson felt the size of the boat, trailer, and the distance the
motor protrudes beyond the boat should be considered.
DonWolfson commended the City Commission on the action they took at the last Commission
meeting in establishing a moratorium against enforcement of the provision regarding rental of
secondary dwellings on Beach Avenue.
It was agreed that the document be finalized and public hearings set. It was suggested that
advertisements include details of the sections of the ordinance to be considered.
There being no further discussion,the Mayor Pro Tern declared the meeting adjourned at 6:40 p.m.
Maureen King
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City Clerk