9-8-14 Reg. Commission minutes MINUTES
*REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING
September 8,2014
CITY HALL, 800 SEMINOLE ROAD
IN ATTENDANCE:
Mayor Carolyn Woods City Manager Nelson Van Liere
Mayor Pro Tem Mark Beckenbach City Attorney Richard Komando
Commissioner Jonathan Daugherty City Clerk Donna L. Bartle
Commissioner Jimmy Hill Recording Secretary Nancy E. Bailey
Commissioner Maria Mark
Call to Order/Pledge:
Mayor Woods called the meeting to order at 6:30 p.m. Commissioner Daugherty gave the Invocation,
followed by the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.
1. A. Approve the minutes of the Special Workshop on Police Building of August 11, 2014.
B. Approve the minutes of the Regular Commission Meeting of August 11, 2014.
C. Approve the minutes of the Special Called Meeting of July 28, 2014.
D. Approve the minutes of the Commission Workshop of July 28,2014.
E. Approve the minutes of the Budget Workshop of August 13, 2014.
F. Approve the minutes of the Town Hall Meeting of July 22, 2014.
G. Approve the minutes of the Public General Discussion Meeting of July 7, 2014.
Mayor Woods asked if there were any corrections to the above minutes. There were no corrections, so Mayor
Woods stated the minutes will stand as submitted.
2. Courtesy of Floor to Visitors
Mayor Woods opened the Courtesy of the Floor to Visitors. She welcomed the audience and
explained the process for public comments.
Teresa Flores,233 Belvedere, spoke in opposition to the Human Rights Ordinance (HRO).
Craig Dunning, 351 Seminole Rd., stated he would like to have a chance to decide what the taxes he pays
are used for but they don't ask anyone what they want done with the taxes they pay.
Kris Matson,540 Hopkins St.,Neptune Beach, spoke in support of the HRO.
Lou Keith, 1845 Tierra Verde Dr., addressed the signage for the country club stating he likes the changes
but they should give Selva Marina the same sized letters; asked for a water fountain at tennis courts and to
redo the fence; and stated they should adopt the same increase in the budget that Social Security pensioners
get for cost of living(4.95%).
Diana Townsend,266 Poinsettia St.,proud they passed the HRO.
Jeff Montanye, 334 11th St., asked that they budget money to acquire the Bennetts Landing property; pass
the Resolution opposing the seismic air-gun testing; and make signs for Atlantic Beach Country Club as
inoffensive as possible.
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John Stinson, 150 12th St., addressed his statement made at the last Commission meeting about Mr.
Komando communicating with Commissioner Daugherty while the public comments session was happening,
stating he believes they should be listening to the speakers; asked about the experience of the person
negotiating the tipping fees with Jacksonville; asked what the position of the Commission is regarding the
annexation of the country club; believes it is regrettable the citizens didn't get to vote on the HRO; and stated
he would like to know who is going to respond, when they are going to respond, etc. to public comments so
the citizens will know when they can get answers on their questions.
David Arieff, 1982 Sevilla Rd., spoke in opposition to the HRO.
Dan Merkan,3159 College St.,thanked everyone for passing the HRO.
Don Ford, 338 6th St., stated he supports the Resolution and believes it would be smart to purchase the
Bennetts land.
Judith Leroux, 1745 Selva Marina Drive, supports the purchase of the Bennetts Landing property. Stated
she appreciates the redesign efforts for the country club sign but believes Selva Marina and Sevilla should all
be represented equally on the sign and the lettering should be the same size.
Tricia Russell, 8720 CR 13 N., St. Augustine, thanked the Commissioners for their votes in support of the
HRO.
Lyn Lazarus,540 Hopkins St.,Neptune Beach, spoke in support of the HRO.
Chris Jorgensen, 92 W. 3rd St., spoke in opposition to the HRO and stated he supports seismic blasting and
is opposed to the Resolution.
Mitch Reeves, 1663 Sea Oats Dr., looking forward to 5 minutes for citizens to speak coming back. He
asked if they know what they passed in the HRO, stating he would like to see them leave it on the books but
hold off on it until they can educate the public a little more and try to bring the community back together.
Carlos Jones,551 Vikings Lane, spoke in opposition to the HRO.
Don Phillips, 1566 Park Terrace West, stated the tennis courts in Jacksonville Beach have a rubberized
surface and would like Atlantic Beach to use the same surface.
Rosan Larizza, 721 Neptune Lane,Neptune Beach, spoke in support of the HRO.
Sharon Krauss,4845 Plymouth St.,Jacksonville, spoke in opposition to the HRO.
Susan Arieff, 1982 Sevilla Blvd., spoke in opposition to the HRO.
William Oursler, 1946 Sevilla Blvd., spoke in opposition to the HRO.
Jolyn Johnson,2322 Beachcomber Trail, spoke in opposition to the HRO.
Julie Malastron,2042 2°d St. S.,Jacksonville Beach, spoke in support of the HRO.
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Don Peters, 1902 N. Sherry Dr., spoke in opposition to the HRO.
Alan Gasparovic,333 Saturiba Dr.,spoke in support of softer surfaces for the tennis courts.
Bobbie O'Connor,3654 Bridgewood Dr.,Jacksonville, spoke in support of the HRO.
Gary Silverfield, 1159 Ponte Vedra Blvd, Ponte Vedra Beach, representing Atlantic Beach Partners,
addressed the sign stating he gave the Commissioners a layout that shows the current proposed sign which
eliminates the tower, as requested. He stated they have contacted Sevilla about paying their share of
maintenance of the sign and to put their letters on the sign and if they are willing to do so they will put them
on the sign. He stated since Selva Marina doesn't have an association or any source of funding they have
kept their name on the sign like it was before. He explained the dimensions of the sign and size of the
lettering. He stated he hopes they agree with their proposal.
Jerry Johnson,2322 Beachcomber Trail, stated he is in support of Human Rights but is in opposition to the
HRO.
Philip Wemhoff,9765 MacArthur Court N.,Jacksonville, spoke in opposition to the HRO.
Ron Lague, 1810 Live Oak Lane, tennis pro, addressed the resurfacing of the tennis courts stating they
should put softer surfaces in.
Donna Zimmerman, 1736 Ocean Grove Dr., spoke in support of the HRO.
Steve Fouraker, 387 6th St., urged the Commission to purchase the Bennett Landing property; stated he
supports the Resolution opposing the seismic air gun testing; would like a discussion about eliminating the
religious element of our City meetings.
Judy Sheklin, 1985 Brista De Mar Circle, spoke in support of the Resolution on seismic air gun testing.
Expressed concern about the sign at the entrance to Selva Marina stating many different communities are
represented there,not just Atlantic Beach Country Club. She thanked the Commission for passing the HRO.
No one else from the audience spoke, so Mayor Woods closed the Courtesy of the Floor to Visitors.
Item 8G was taken out of sequence and acted on at this time.
8G. Request for Reconsideration on Ordinance No. 95-14-108.
Motion: Reconsider Ordinance 95-14-108
Moved by Daugherty, Seconded by Hill
Following discussion on the reconsideration, Mayor Woods called the question.
Votes:
Aye: 5—Beckenbach,Hill,Mark,Woods
Nay: 0-Daugherty
MOTION CARRIED
Mayor Woods asked that the City Clerk call the roll for the vote to reconsider the Ordinance.
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Roll Call Votes:
Aye: 2—Hill,Daugherty
Nay: 3 -Mark,Beckenbach,Woods
MOTION FAILED
Mayor Woods recessed the meeting at 7:44 p.m. She reconvened the meeting at 7:48 p.m.
A. Proclamation for Green Apple Day of Service.
Mayor Woods read the proclamation in its entirety, declaring September 27, 2014 as Green Apple Day of
Service.
3. Unfinished Business from Previous Meetings
A. City Manager's Follow-up Report.
None.
B. Atlantic Beach Country Club Sign.
City Manager Nelson Van Liere reported on the new proposal for the sign.
Motion: Accept the plans as they are.
Moved by Beckenbach, Seconded by Mark
Recommendations were suggested by the Commissioners and discussion ensued.
Gary Silverfield of Atlantic Beach Partners answered questions from the Commission.
Mayor Woods disclosed that she is a property owner in Sevilla and will discuss with the Board that they help
with the payment for the sign and maintenance.
City Clerk asked to clarify that when they are talking about accepting the drawing, that they are talking about
the one Mr. Silverfield handed out tonight and not the one in the packet.
Mayor Woods stated she believes they need an amendment that they have requested that all three community
names be on the sign.
Motion: Amend to include all three community names on sign as proposed on the drawing dated June
30,2014 that was presented to the Commission as amended on September 2,2014.
Moved by Woods, Seconded by Daugherty
Votes:
Aye: 5—Beckenbach,Daugherty,Hill,Mark,Woods
Nay: 0
MOTION CARRIED
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Commissioner Hill asked to amend to put Sevilla and Selva Marina across the top as the neighborhood and
then Atlantic Beach Country Club very prominently and large, which he believes would resolve the
complaints he has heard.
Motion: Amend to put the lettering on the sign and add Sevilla.
Moved by Hill
Motion failed due to no second.
Mayor Woods called for vote on amended motion to accept the sign as presented and as amended.
Votes:
Aye: 5—Beckenbach,Daugherty,Hill,Mark,Woods
Nay: 0
MOTION CARRIED
4. Consent Agenda
ALL MATTERS LISTED UNDER THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE BY
THE CITY COMMISSION AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION IN THE FORM LISTED
BELOW. THERE WILL BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION OF THESE ITEMS. IF DISCUSSION IS
DESIRED, THAT ITEM WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND WILL BE
CONSIDERED SEPARATELY.BEEN PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED O
RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE TO THE CITY COMMISSION ON
THESE ITEMS.
A. Acknowledge receipt of the Building Department Monthly Activity Report and Monthly Financial
Report for July 2014.
B. Declare the list of property as surplus so that the items on it may be disposed of in the most beneficial
way to the City.
C. Authorize the City Manager to sign the attached contracts with ABET and tennis professional
Brecht Catalan.
D. Extend the Electrical Troubleshooting, Repair and Installation Annual Contract (Bid No.
0910-16) for one additional year to Limbaugh Electrical Contracting, Inc. at the contract
prices.
E. Acknowledge receipt of the Police Department Semi Annual Report 2014.
Mayor Woods read the Consent Agenda.
Motion: Approve Consent Agenda Items A-E as read.
Moved by Daugherty, Seconded by Mark
Votes:
Aye: 5—Beckenbach,Daugherty,Hill,Mark,Woods
Nay: 0
MOTION CARRIED
5. Committee Reports
None.
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6. Action on Resolutions
A. RESOLUTION NO. 14-09
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLORIDA, OPPOSING SEISMIC AIR-GUN
TESTING IN THE ATLANTIC OCEAN;AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
Mayor Woods read Resolution No. 14-09 by title.
Motion: Approve Resolution No. 14-09 as read.
Moved by Mark, Seconded by Daugherty
Votes:
Aye: 5—Beckenbach,Daugherty,Hill,Mark,Woods
Nay: 0
MOTION CARRIED
7. Action on Ordinances
A. Public Hearing and first reading on adopting a Tentative Millage Rate and adopting Ordinance
No.20-14-128 establishing the Operating Budget for fiscal year 2014/2015.
AN ORDINANCE ADOPTING THE FINAL BUDGET FOR THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH,
FLORIDA FOR FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1, 2014 AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 2015.
Mayor Woods read Ordinance No. 20-14-128 by title.
She explained the first item to be considered is the Adoption of a Tentative Millage Rate, stating the Millage
Rate is currently 3.3285, the Tentative Millage Rate is 3.3285, the Roll—Back Rate is 3.1715. The Tentative
Millage Rate is 4.95% more than the Roll-Back Rate. The purpose for adopting the millage rate of 3.3285 is
to maintain a level of ad valorem tax revenue sufficient to maintain adequate funding for the existing level of
services at anticipated and proposed cost and to continue to maintain the City's infrastructure.
Motion: Adopt a Tentative Millage Rate for operating purposes of 3.3285.
Moved by Beckenbach, Seconded by Mark
Mayor Woods opened the Public Hearing.
Mitch Reeves, 1663 Sea Oats Drive, asked that they reconsider the millage because, although it is the same
rate as last year, it is still an increase because the value of the homes is going up.
No one else from the audience spoke so Mayor Woods closed the Public Hearing.
Commissioner Daugherty agreed with Mr. Reeves stating if it is fair to roll it up whenever property values go
down, he believes they should have a policy of rolling it back down when property values go up.
Commissioner Beckenbach stated they have tried to hold down the amount of money they spend. They have
kept down the increases in salaries for the individuals working for the City on a regular basis; they have not
had a 3% COLA regularly that a lot of other cities do have; they don't have a COLA increase in the pension
funds, they have asked the employees to pay more money and have changed the pension fund with the new
employees that are coming in to a 401K or something similar. He stated as far as expenditures, they look at
the amounts of money they are willing to spend. He stated people do want us to be concerned about the
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money but they want, above everything, a beautiful city to live in, one that is maintained and they want
people who are working here to be able to afford to live on the salaries that we give them. He stated this
3.3285 millage rate will help the City maintain the parks, beaches, sunset pier, etc. and they need a certain
amount of money to continue to maintain these things for the benefit of the citizenry. He stated he believes
this is an acceptable millage rate. Mayor Woods stated ad valorem taxes increased by about $239,000. She
stated through the years the costs have gone up and the employees' benefits have gone down, so not only
have they not gotten raises but the employees have had to pay more out of pocket for all of their healthcare
and that hurts a lot. She stated it is not right to keep expecting your employees to do this. She stated by
giving our employees raises this year, which they haven't had in six years, and to cover the increased cost of
health insurance, which totals up to about $212,000, that is pretty much where all this extra money is going
and these employees are well worth it. She stated we have a great city and they do a great job and she totally
supports maintaining the current tax rate.
Votes:
Aye: 4—Beckenbach,Hill,Mark,Woods
Nay: 1 -Daugherty,
MOTION CARRIED
She stated the second item to be considered is Ordinance No. 20-14-128 establishing the Operating Budget
for fiscal year 2014/2015 of$30,752,338. She stated she needs a motion to adopt Ordinance No. 20-14-128
establishing the Operating Budget for fiscal year 2014/2015.
Motion: Approve Ordinance No. 20-14-128 as read.
Moved by Mark, Seconded by Daugherty
Mayor Woods opened the Public Hearing.
Mitch Reeves, 1663 Sea Oats Drive, asked why are they increasing the budget by $2 million and stated he
believes more time needs to be spent on the budget.
John Stinson, 150 12th St., stated he agrees with Commissioner Beckenbach that the parks need to be kept
nice and clean; they increase the value of your home and the attractiveness of the city. He stated what he
would encourage them to do is to have a balanced budget and keep the reserve.
No one else from the audience spoke, so Mayor Woods closed the Public Hearing.
Mayor Woods addressed the comments stating the police building they are planning to build has been
budgeted $2.6 million and when they came into office the plan was for a $5 million police building, so they
have cut that in half. She stated when you subtract the $2.6 million from the budget, it actually shows that we
are spending about $432,737 less than last year. She stated she believes the discrepancy in the balance they
see is showing they are spending $2.6 million on the police building, which is money they have saved over
the past years in anticipation of having to spend this. She stated they have worked very hard at getting a good
solution for the police building, cut that budget in half and believes they are on track and everybody has done
a really good job. She stated as far as the number of meetings they had during the workshop, in the past they
would spend a couple of meetings reviewing history and what had gone on. She stated they cut that time
down because it didn't seem they needed to belabor all of those points; they focused more on where they are
going, where the money is. She stated also since the new City Manager has been here, Mr. Van Liere has had
the opportunity to do a lot of restructuring with employees and that is where a lot of the savings they are
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realizing is coming from. She stated that also helps with our pension issues. She stated she is very proud of
what they have all done here together; she is very proud of what staff has done. She stated they have been so
cohesive and supportive of the City during all of this hard time.
Commissioner Mark stated our budget is balanced and that is a requirement that they have a balanced budget.
She stated, regarding reserves, the Commission a long time ago set a minimum of 25% reserves in the
accounts and they have met and probably exceeded that in most of our accounts. She stated Mr. Van Liere
just recently restructured some debt that will also save us some money; also they will start seeing the savings
in the pension reform that was negotiated a couple of years ago. She stated the previous administration was
really extremely frugal and because of that we are in a position where we can now reinvest the money back
into the City's services and amenities. She stated they have done a lot with a little and this is an opportunity
now to make some of those investments that have not been done and she believes it will be positive for the
City and the citizens who live here.
Commissioner Hill stated he believes it is very prudent for the Commission to take the little bit of gain they
are going to receive and put it back into maintenance and he is in favor of adopting this as it is. He also
stated, with the new HRO, he believes they should have some funds available for that issue because there will
be cost if it gets exercised.
Votes:
Aye: 5—Beckenbach, Daugherty,Hill,Mark,Woods
Nay: 0
MOTION CARRIED
B. ORDINANCE NO. 5-14-61,Public Hearing and Final Reading
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLORIDA, AMENDING CHAPTER 2 OF
THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, ADMINISTRATION, ARTICLE II, CITY COMMISSION, SEC. 2-16,
TIME AND PLACE OF REGULAR MEETINGS, TO PROVIDE FOR TWO (2) REGULAR MEETINGS
PER MONTH EXCEPT FOR DECEMBER AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
Mayor Woods read Ordinance No. 5-14-61 by title.
Mayor Woods opened the Public Hearing. No one from the audience spoke so she closed the Public Hearing.
Motion: Approve Ordinance No. 5-14-61 as read.
Moved by Mark, Seconded by Daugherty
Votes:
Aye: 4—Daugherty,Hill,Mark,Woods
Nay: 1 -Beckenbach
MOTION CARRIED
8. Miscellaneous Business
A. Recruitment of Grant Writing Firm.
Cathy Berry stated she would like to revise her recommendation, after the discussion of the needs of the City
at the last meeting, to recommend that we hire Langton Associates for the $36,000 flat rate for one year all
inclusive. Mayor Woods added, and authorize the City Manager to negotiate.
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Motion: Authorize the City Manager to negotiate with Langton Associates, Inc. for the $36,000 flat
rate for one year all inclusive.
Moved by Daugherty, Seconded by Hill
Commissioner Mark stated, for the record, she would like to request that the main areas for Mr. Langton to
focus on would be on the police building (i.e. energy grants, anything to help pay for enhancements with the
green building for the remodeling), and continue with grants for the Marsh Master Plan, and if we move
forward on the community redevelopment area for Mayport, that he start looking for grants to help fund that
project. Discussion ensued.
Commissioner Beckenbach asked Ms. Berry why she has changed her mind to go with the $36,000 for the
entire year. Ms. Berry stated after a discussion at the Department Head meeting and based on the comments
from the Commission as well as the presentation, everyone agreed that they could use the services.
Discussion ensued.
Commissioner Mark disclosed that one of Mr. Langton's employees is on her nonprofit board, but it is not a
compensated board,they are all volunteers. City Attorney Komando stated that would not be a conflict.
Votes:
Aye: 5—Beckenbach,Daugherty,Hill,Mark,Woods
Nay: 0
MOTION CARRIED
B. Renewal of Employee Benefits—Insurance.
Ms. Berry stated Harden and Associates is working diligently to get the best bids in. She stated she expected
to hear back from them today with a timeline but did not, so she can't say definitively when they should have
that information in but she was told originally it would take about a month.
Motion: Authorize Harden and Associates to get updated quotes on all of our employee benefit and
employee-paid insurance coverages to obtain the best coverage for the best rates.
Moved by Mark, Seconded by Daugherty
Votes:
Aye: 5—Beckenbach,Daugherty,Hill,Mark,Woods
Nay: 0
MOTION CARRIED
C. Renewal of Liability and Workers' Compensation Insurance.
Ms. Berry stated there are only two carriers that provide these insurance products and we have one carrier that
provides our workers' comp insurance and the other carrier provides all of our general liability insurance
coverages. She stated her recommendation is to go with these same carriers for renewals.
Motion: Approve renewal of all liability and workers' compensation insurances for the next year and
authorize the City Manager to sign related insurance renewal documents.
Moved by Mark, Seconded by Beckenbach
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Votes:
Aye: 5—Beckenbach,Daugherty, Hill, Mark,Woods
Nay: 0
MOTION CARRIED
D. Russell Park Tennis Court Reconstruction.
Public Works Director Doug Layton summarized his staff report. He stated he recommends putting the same
asphalt type surface as is there now. Mr. Layton answered questions from the Commission. Discussion
ensued.
Following discussion it was decided to go with the upgraded softer surface.
Motion: Resurface Courts 1 and 2 with the upgraded surface at a cost of$96,645.51 and authorize the
City Manager to sign the contract
Moved by Daugherty, Seconded by Woods
Further discussion ensued.
Votes:
Aye: 5—Beckenbach,Daugherty,Hill,Mark,Woods
Nay: 0
MOTION CARRIED
E. Discussion on proclaiming September 27, 2014 as Green Apple Day of Service.
Moved to Agenda Item No. 2.
F. Discussion on Proposed Resolution Not Supporting Seismic Blasting Offshore.
Moved to Agenda Item No. 6.
G. Request for Reconsideration on Ordinance No. 95-14-108.
This item was taken out of sequence and acted on earlier in the meeting.
9. City Manager
A. City Manager's Report.
• 90-Day Calendar(August- October 2014)
Mr. Van Liere stated they have a tentative date to add the workshop on 9/29 for the City Manager search at
5:00. Ms. Berry stated Mr. Anzivino of Springsted will present the top 10 finalists and explain how the
interview process should work. She stated they will also discuss what follow-up questions they can and can't
ask the candidates. She stated she should have the profiles of the top 10 by September 22 for the
Commissioners to review and rank.
Commissioner Beckenbach stated he will not be at the town hall meeting on 18th and asked if they could
move it. Following discussion on alternate dates, City Clerk Bartle will check availability of the room and
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get back to them with a possible date. Mayor Woods stated if they can't come up with an alternate date they
will leave it on the 18th.
10. Reports and/or requests from City Commissioners and City Attorney
City Clerk Bartle
• Reminded the Commission since the Ordinance on the meeting schedule passed, our next meeting will
not be a workshop but will be a regular meeting and the deadline for agenda items was last Friday.
She stated unless they have something that needs to make this transition, they will go with what they
have. She explained, except when there are three weeks between meetings, the Friday before the
previous meeting will be the deadline for agenda items.
Commissioner Hill
• Apologized if he got short with the Mayor earlier.
Commissioner Mark
• Asked Chief Classey to speak about an issue that occurred during her ride along with the police.
Chief Classey explained a dog bite incident involving two pit bulls that attacked another dog and a
resident. Answering a question from Commissioner Hill, Chief Classey also discussed an incident in
Howell Park. Chief Classey also stated he will check into the response times, at the request of
Commissioner Mark related to the dog bite incident.
Commissioner Beckenbach
• Discussed the Bennett property, stating they need to find out how much money they are talking about
as far as the sale is concerned. He stated the property they are talking about is changing on a regular
basis. He stated when he was at the property, Mr. Bennett said that now he would like to have a large
enough area right by the house to go all the way through from Jasmine to the other road so they would
have a drive-through. He stated this concerns him because, instead of having the entire property
including where the little storage buildings are, that is now going to be part of the house property. He
stated he doesn't believe that was what they originally had intended. He stated he would like to give
the opportunity for the City Manager to start talking and representing the City regarding the amount of
money we would be interested in spending on that. Mayor Woods stated she believes, in the long run,
the property is a good investment for the City, whether we have immediate plans for it right now or
not. She stated the presentation has been extremely vague to this point and, in most cases when these
type things occur, the representative of the property brings an actual proposal to the City. She stated
that is the process we are looking for because we have nothing to go on. She stated when that
happens they will be able to put it on the agenda and bring it up. Commissioner Beckenbach stated he
finds it a bit problematic to have the area go from Jasmine to the other road right next to the house and
would hope we would be able to move that fence over a little more and have it only have one front for
the house and then the piece of property they are talking about would be a bit larger as well.
Commissioner Hill stated he doesn't want to buy it and let it just sit; it has no value to any of our
citizens as it currently sits. He stated to pull it out of the tax roll and then not use it would not be a
good idea. He stated he would like to have a conversation with the Commission on the property as a
whole, including Tideviews and the retention ponds to see if they could be used as a natural park
instead of the way they are currently sitting. Mayor Woods stated they can put in on the agenda for
new business to be considered but it won't be on the next agenda, but the one following. It was the
consensus of the Commission to put it on the agenda of the October 13 Commission meeting.
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Mayor Woods
• Stated she has a meeting with some young ladies to discuss having back yard chickens.
• Stated they are continuing the improvement plan for the Mayport area and Mr. Hubsch has gone to a
conference on CRAs and will report back at a future workshop.
• Stated she has been talking to Mr. Hubsch and the City Manager about looking at the Tree Ordinance.
• Reported she has had requests from citizens for a concept of a book depository for people to swap
books.
• Complimented whoever did the budget workshop minutes. She stated she found them to be very
thorough. City Clerk Bartle stated it was Nancy Bailey. Mayor Woods stated thank you.
Adjournment
There being no further business to come before the Commission, Mayor Woods declared the meeting
adjourned at 9:42 p.m. (24----
Carolyn Woods
ATTEST: Mayor/Presiding Officer
4,intiet 114411.
Donna L. Bartle, CMC
City Clerk
*A Workshop was held on August 22,2014 for the purpose of discussing these items. Please refer to the Workshop Minutes for the
previous discussion.