Item 1C- Draft Commission Minutes 10-24-16IN ATTENDANCE:
MINUTES
REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING
October 24, 2016
CITY HALL, 800 SEMINOLE ROAD
City Attorney Brenna Durden
City Manager Nelson VanLiere
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Mayor Mitchell E. Reeves
Mayor Pro Tern Jimmy Hill
Commissioner Harding
Commissioner John Stinson
Commissioner M. Blythe Waters
City Clerk Donna L. Bartle
Recording Secretary Dayna Williams
Invocation and pledge to the flag
Commissioner Waters gave the Invocation, followed by the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.
Call to Order:
Mayor Reeves called the meeting to order at 6:33p.m.
Mayor Reeves explained the process for public comments for the Courtesy of the Floor to Visitors.
1. A. Approve minutes of the Regular Commission Meeting of September 26, 2016.
Mayor Reeves asked if there were any corrections to the above minutes. There were no corrections to
the minutes.
Motion: Approve the Minutes.
Moved by Stinson, Seconded by Waters
Votes:
Aye: 5-Harding, Hill, Stinson, Waters, Reeves
Nay: 0
MOTION CARRIED
2. Courtesy of the Floor to Visitors
A. Representatives from FEMA-Brenda Gustafson, Intergovernmental Affairs Specialist
and W Montague Q Winfield, Major General, USA (Retired), Director & Federal
Coordinator, National Preparedness Division.
Mayor Reeves recognized Jacksonville City Councilman for District 13, Bill Gulliford. Councilman
Gulliford stated he is introducing emergency legislation to advance the funding of $7.5 million to the
Corps of Engineers, along with authorizing the Mayor to execute the Memoradum of Understanding that
the Corps has given to us to implement Duval County Beaches Dune Reparation. He is hoping we will
pass this, as we have no assurance the Federal Government or the State will reimburse us. He stated the
City Council Meeting will be held tomorrow at 5:00p.m. and encouraged the Commissioners to attend.
He stated he would be happy to answer any questions at this time.
Mayor Reeves suspended the rules of Comiesy of the Floor for Councilman Gulliford and for FEMA to
allow the Commissioners to ask any questions they might have.
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Mayor Reeves opened the floor for discussion.
Commissioner Hill stated he would be unable to attend the meeting as he will be· out of town. He
commented on our commitment as a community to the protection of our dunes with vegetation and
foliage and the benefit it provided during this event.
Mayor Reeves stated he is planning to attend the City Council Meeting tomorrow at 5:00p.m. and asked
which Commissioners will be in attendance. Commissioner Stinson, Commissioner Harding and City
Manager Van Liere said they are planning to attend.
Commissioner Stinson commented on the beach entrances and the dunes that washed away. He noted
the ones that have paths through the dunes, as opposed to those with boardwalks over the dunes,
sustained much heavier damage and asked Councilman Gulliford if there were any conversations about
restoring those or building more of the boardwalks.
Councilman Gulliford said they had not gotten that far yet, but he agreed the crossovers provided better
protection. He talked with a coastal engineer, Kevin Badge, about a better design for the dune entrances
and Mr. Badge said there is some potential design work that could be done.
Commissioner Waters thanked Mr. Gulliford for serving the beach community so well.
Mayor Reeves moved Item 6A.
Item 6A was taken out of sequence and acted on at this time.
6. Action on Resolutions
A. Resolution No. 16-06
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLORIDA SUPPORTING THE
EMERGENCY APPROVAL BY THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE OF ORDINANCE 2016-
720 AUTHORIZING THE APPROVAL OF AGREEMENTS WITH THE U.S.
DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS TO IMPLEMENT DUVAL
COUNTY BEACHES DUNE REPARATION; REQUESTING EMERGENCY PASSAGE
UPON INTRODUCTION; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
City Clerk Bartle read the Resolution by title.
Motion: Adopt Resolution No. 16-06 as read by title.
Moved by Stinson, Seconded by Harding
Mayor Reeves opened the floor for discussion.
City Attorney Durden stated according to Section 219 in the Code the first motion would be to take
it up as an emergency to allow it to be taken up as an emergency, and then the second motion would
be to take up the resolution itself.
Commissioner Stinson withdrew his motion. Commissioner Harding withdrew his second.
Motion: Approve Resolution No. 16-06 as an Emergency Resolution.
Moved by Waters, Seconded by Hill
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There was no discussion.
Votes:
Aye: 5-Harding, Hill, Stinson, Waters, Reeves
Nay: 0
MOTION CARRIED
Motion: Adopt Resolution No. 16-06 as read by title.
Moved by Stinson, Seconded by Harding
There was no discussion.
Roll Call Votes:
Aye: 5 -Harding, Hill, Stinson, Waters, Reeves
Nay: 0
MOTION CARRIED
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Mayor Reeves recognized the FEMA representatives and asked them to state their name and title. He
reiterated that he is suspending the rules to allow the Commissioners to ask any questions they might
have.
Brenda Gustafson, Intergovernmental Affairs Specialist with FEMA. Q. Winfield, Director for
Federal Preparedness for the Southeastern Region of the United States, but here for this disaster,
he is Serving as a Liaison for Duval County.
Mr. Winfield stated this aftemoon the President approved a Declaration for Duval County. He stated
they normally set up a site, called a DRC (Disaster Recovery Center), and explained the process going
forward to provide assistance to the survivors. Ms. Gustafson stated a press release will be issued to the
public tomonow instructing residents how to apply to FEMA for assistance. She provided a toll free
number for residents to call (1-800-621-FEMA) or go online to DisasterAssistance.gov. She encouraged
residents to register as soon as possible.
Commissioner Stinson stated he met with Ms. Gustafson last week and they discussed how to get this
information to the residents and she spoke highly of the FEMA Mobile App. He asked her to elaborate
on the app and explain what it allows FEMA to do with the information submitted by citizens. She gave
a detailed explanation of the features and advantages of the app.
Commissioner Stinson asked if they could speak to how well the City responded, where we could
improve. Mr. Winfield stated the Govemor looked at what we did well, where we were lacking, in an
effort to be better prepared the next time there is some type of emergency. He stated they discussed a
couple of areas. One was sheltering, which we did extremely well, and second, the evacuation process,
which seemed to go smoothly other than some traffic slow downs. He stated the county did extremely
well overall. He stated we were able to get residents back into their homes quickly. Mayor Reeves
asked how we could assess the losses and damage in a better fashion. Mr. Winfield stated the faster we
can assess, the faster we can assist. He suggested we could improve how we collect the data by having a
system where people can call in to a central location to repmi damages and losses.
Commissioner Waters stated, in previous disasters, one of the hardest hit group of residents has been
those that are less mobile, elderly, infi1m, those dependent upon public transportation, and the beaches
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depend on JTA for their public transportation. She asked if they could speak to how we did addressing
the needs of those who use public transpmiation or who needed aid or assistance to get to shelters. Mr.
Winfield stated he did not have an oppmiunity to see that first hand, however, he saw the results and our
plan worked well.
Commissioner Hill asked what is available to small businesses who have suffered losses. In particular,
he addressed a big event we had planned for the City (Web.com Tour) that was shut down due to
Hun·icane Matthew. He stated it would have a significant impact on our community if it becomes an
annual event, and he is looking for ways we could help them. Mayor Reeves stated those organizations
have insurance to cover unforeseen losses. Mr. Winfield said if our City gets public assistance that is a
great question to ask.
Mayor Reeves opened the Courtesy of the Floor to Visitors. City Clerk Bartle called each speaker to the
podium.
Chris Jorgensen, 92 W. 3rd St., commented that putting rocks behind the dunes may be beneficial. He
was glad to see the second TV in the Chamber. He agreed with a comment he heard from FEMA that
the City should have a more aggressive tree pruning or trimming program. He thanked Fire and Rescue
for handling his neighbor with a serious medical issue.
Steven Fouraker, 387 6th St., thanked the City, Police, Public Works, the City Manager and the Mayor
for doing a great job. He said our City drained so well, he is impressed. He thanked Commissioner
Stinson and Commissioner Hill for their astute observations on the dunes and the crossovers to the
beach.
Patrick Fontaine, 31 Royal Palms Dr., asked why it was taking so long to pick up the debris and he
thanked the Police for protecting their neighborhood when the power was out.
3. Unfinished Business from Previous Meetings
None.
4. Consent Agenda
ALL MATTERS LISTED UNDER THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED TO BE
ROUTINE BY THE CITY COMMISSION AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION IN
THE FORM LISTED BELOW. THERE WILL BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION OF THESE
ITEMS. IF DISCUSSION IS DESIRED, THAT ITEM WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE
CONSENT AGENDA AND WILL BE CONSIDERED SEPARATELY. SUPPORTING
DOCUMENTATION AND STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY
SUBMITTED TO THE CITY COMMISSION ON THESE ITEMS.
A. Acknowledge receipt of the Major Public Works Projects FY15/16-Year End Status
Repmi and Recreation Programs Special Events Report for August 2016.
B. Award the contract to Beachcombers Nmih, Inc. for Beach Cleaning Services (Bid No.
1617-02) for a total annual cost of$29,618.98.
C. Extend the annual contract for Janitorial Services for City Facilities (Bid No. 1213-06)
for one final year at the current prices, term being October 1, 2016 to September 30,
2017, and rebid the contract in June of2017.
D. Approve the revised Interlocal Agreement among the City of Jacksonville, City of
Atlantic Beach, City of Jacksonville Beach, City ofNeptune Beach and the Commander,
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U.S. Naval Station Mayport, U.S. Navy and Commander, Naval Station Jacksonville,
U.S. Navy for Conduct of the Sea and Sky Spectacular and authorize the City Manager to
sign the agreement.
E. Extend the contract for Street Sweeping and Vacuuming (Bid No. 1213-01) with USA
Services of Florida, Inc. for one year at the current prices with the te1m being November
1, 2016 through October 31, 2017.
F. Award Bid No. 1617-01: Repair of Electrical Motors and Pumps to Moline Electric for a
term of 5 years, with an option to cancel after the 3rd and 4th year.
G. Approve the Memorandum of Understanding between the City of Jacksonville and the
City of Atlantic Beach for the Joint Operation of Dutton Island Preserve and authorize the
Mayor to sign the Agreement.
H. Authorize the City Manager to enter into a new one-year agreement with Langton
Associates, Inc. for Grant Writing Services with the term being October 1, 2016 through
September 30, 2017.
City Clerk Bartle read the consent agenda.
Mayor Reeves asked if any Commissioner would like to pull an item from the Consent Agenda for
discussion.
Commissioner Stinsonpulled Items B, E, and H. Commissioner Hill pulled Items B, E, F, and H.
Motion: Approve Consent Agenda Items A, C , D & G as written.
Moved by Stinson, Seconded by Hill
There was no discussion on these items.
Votes:
Ayes: 5-Harding, Hill, Stinson, Waters, Reeves
Nays: 0
MOTION CARRIED
Mayor Reeves opened discussion for Item B. Commissioner Stinson questioned the large discrepancy in
bid amounts between the three bids received. City Manager Van Liere explained the last time this was
bid out we had four other bidders that came in about the same price as the low bidder. He stated the
other two bidders are new to us and he does not feel they understood what they were bidding.
Commissioner Stinson asked if we were satisfied with the services of Beachcombers North. City
Manager VanLiere stated the staff is satisfied that they perfmm their job very well. Mayor Reeves
discussed changing the way the bid specs are written so the job description is clearer. Discussion
ensued.
Motion: Approve Consent Agenda Item 4B.
Moved by Stinson, Seconded by Harding
Votes:
Ayes: 4-Harding, Stinson, Waters, Reeves
Nays: 1 -Hill
MOTION CARRIED
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Mayor Reeves opened discussion for Item E. Commissioner Stinson stated he has received complaints
from citizens about the quality of work the contractor is doing. Mayor Reeves stated he has followed
the truck and all they are doing is stirring up dirt and putting it back through the system. Public Works
Director Don Jacobovitz concurred they do have problems spewing out dust or mud and stated he
discussed the complaints today with the operations manager of USA Services of Florida, Inc. He stated
the operations manager conceded that they do have problems when dealing with Miami Curbs,; it is not
as efficient. Commissioner Hill asked to pull this item, as he is displeased with the quality of the job
perfmmed and this is the third or fourth year he has had this same conversation. He stated he would be
quieted if Mr. Jacobovitz could give him a tonnage or poundage of material removed. Mr. Jacobovitz
stated he does not have the numbers of the tonnage, but it is a large amount. Mayor Reeves asked when
their contract expires, and City Manager VanLiere stated October 31, 2016.
Motion: Approve consent Agenda Item 4E.
Moved by Waters, Seconded by Stinson
Votes:
Ayes: 4-Harding, Stinson, Waters, Reeves
Nays: 1 -Hill
MOTION CARRIED
Mayor Reeves opened discussion for Item F. Commissioner Hill asked if this was a local company and
Mr. Jacobovitz stated yes.
Motion: Approve consent Agenda Item 4F.
Moved by Waters, Seconded by Harding
Votes:
Ayes: 5-Harding, Hill, Stinson, Waters, Reeves
Nays: 0
MOTION CARRIED
Mayor Reeves opened discussion for Item H. Commissioner Stinson asked the City Manager to
comment on the amount we are paying a contractor to submit and apply for grants versus the dollar
amount of grants that we have received. City Manager Van Liere stated the $36,000.00 that they
provide services for has paid for itself this year. He explained it is a task that goes across departments
and it helps to have them focused on it with their expertise. Discussion ensued.
Motion: Approve consent Agenda Item 4H.
Moved by Stinson, Seconded by Waters
Votes:
Ayes: 5-Harding, Hill, Stinson, Waters, Reeves
Nays: 0
MOTION CARRIED
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5. Committee Reports
A. Appointments to the Code Enforcement Board
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Commissioner Stinson reported that the Board Member Review Committee (BMRC) met on Monday,
October 17, 2016 to address the four vacancies (three regular members and one alternate member) on
the Code Enforcement Board. He stated the Committee recommended reappointing Louis Keith and
Richard Lombardi and appointing Ellen Glasser as a regular member and Mike Paschall as an alternate
member for terms beginning immediately and ending September 30, 2019. The following day, Mr.
Paschall notified the City Clerk Donna Batile to withdraw his application.
Motion: Approve the appointments to the Code Enforcement Board as discussed.
Moved by Waters, Seconded by Hill
There was no discussion.
Votes:
Ayes: 5-Harding, Hill, Stinson, Waters, Reeves
Nays: 0
MOTION CARRIED
6. Action on Resolutions
A. Resolution No. 16-06
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLORIDA SUPPORTING THE
EMERGENCY APPROVAL BY THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE OF ORDINANCE 2016-
720 AUTHORIZING THE APPROVAL OF AGREEMENTS WITH THE U.S.
DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS TO IMPLEMENT DUVAL
COUNTY BEACHES DUNE REPARATION; REQUESTING EMERGENCY PASSAGE
UPON INTRODUCTION; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
(This item was taken out of sequence and acted on earlier in the meeting.)
7. Action on Ordinances
None.
8. Miscellaneous Business (Discussion only)
A. Waiver No. 16-SAFW-241-Request for Waiver to allow a Finish Floor Elevation of 6.75 ft, in
lieu of the minimum 7.5 ft. as required by City Code, Section 24-251(c), at 1201 Gladiola
Street.
Chief Building Official Dan Arlington explained the waiver request. Commissioner Harding asked if
the finished floor elevations are included in the original documents submitted to the City for approval
and did the building department miss the discrepancy in the original plans. Dan stated yes, they are
included, and, no, it was not missed, we actually requested the 8.5 elevation and explained the pennit
was subject to that elevation, which he (the contractor) agreed to. Commissioner Harding asked, during
any pati of the inspection do we check to make sure they are within the specifications that were
submitted in the original plans. Mr. Arlington stated we should have checked it though it is not required
for us to check it because the contractor has been told what it should be. Mr. Arlington said we check it
at the end, as an elevation certificate is required at the end to verify the 8.5.
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Mayor Reeves asked do we inspect when they start building the floor or do we wait until they finish.
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Mr. Arlington explained the best practice of the City would be to ask for a survey at that time, but we
failed to do that. Commissioner Hill asked where we are in the construction phase and is it owned by
the contractor. Mr. Arlington stated it is finished and has been sold. Commissioner Hill asked if the
buyer is aware of the conflict and Mr. Arlington stated yes.
Scott Putnal, Right Angle Builders, 12436 Ft. Caroline Rd., contractor for the construction of the
finished floor. Mayor Reeves asked Mr. Putnal, did he not submit a signed affidavit showing that he
knew and would build to the correct elevation of 8.5 and, if so, explain why it is not 8.5. Mr. Putnal
stated it was a gross oversight on his part. Mr. Putnal stated the house closed this past Friday and the
homeowner has already secured flood insurance. Mayor Reeves asked if it was declared at closing to
the mortgage company and the owner that this house could require a waiver. Mr. Putnal stated yes, it
was disclosed to the buyer's power of attorney that there has to be a waiver. Mr. Putnal stated if he does
not get the waiver he will lose his business. Discussion ensued.
Commissioner Hill stated, going forward, something needs to be tied to the deed/contract to be certain
the purchaser is aware of the issue and will not hold the City liable. He asked the City Attorney what
mechanism might be used to put this in place. City Attorney Durden stated she would be glad to review
the closing documents and determine whether or not it would be appropriate for the purchaser to
aclmowledge that they understand what the requirements are, that they understand about the flood
insurance and that they would release the City of Atlantic Beach from any responsibility if the waiver
was granted. She stated our Code does allow for a waiver of this section, very specifically, in Section
24-191, so the City Code authorizes or creates an opportunity for a waiver if the Commission sees it to
be proper.
Commissioner Stinson asked for feedback from city staff as to how we are going to prevent this from
happening again. Commissioner Waters asked Mr. Arlington how he could help the Commission not
have to grant any more waivers such as this. Mr. Arlington explained when he first started in 2013 he
saw that it was not included in our written policy to request a survey, so he sent out a memo stating we
should request a survey at that point in construction. He said it is a written policy, it is not required, but
it is best practice. He suggested we could utilize our new software, TRAKiT, to put a hold in the
procedure to flag it at the slab inspection. Commissioner Waters asked if our current ordinance might be
better written, or should we implement other changes to ensure better checks and balances. Stinson
recommended the City Manager and staff should incorporate it in their procedures. Commissioner
Harding commented that we already have established a policy for this procedure and we missed a step in
the policy. He stated we must ensure that this does not happen in the future.
Consensus: Move item forward to a public hearing on November 14, 2016.
City Attorney Durden requested Mr. Putnal provide her with a complete closing package from the
closing that occurred on Friday. Mr. Putnal agreed to give a copy of it to the City Manager and he will
see that she receives it.
9. City Manager
A. City Manager's Report.
90-Day Calendar (October 2016 through December 2016).
City Manager VanLiere reported that he would like to add an item to the calendar. He stated Thursday,
November 1oth at 3:00 p.m. in Russell Park, we plan to unveil the first Atlantic Beach Historical Marker.
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He stated this was requested for Camp Atlantic Beach. He explained we had an application with the
state and they finally approved it, made the marker and we now have it.
City Manager VanLiere asked Public Works Director Don Jacobovitz, to give a briefing on where we
are with debris pickup.
B. Hurricane Update
Don Jacobovitz addressed the delay in debris pickup. He explained pali of the delay was because we
had to wait until FEMA declared it a disaster. He stated we had already stalied discussions before the
hurricane to hire Ceres Environmental Services, who is our contractor. We had a contract in place with
them, we just had to give them notice to proceed, which began Monday, October 1 01h. He explained we
have been publishing a map every day showing where they have gone in the City. He stated another
issue that came to light the very first day was the bagged debris, which the contractor picked up and took
to the temporary debris site. The first load they took to the site with bags in it, the manager of the site
made them open all the plastic bags and not bring any more plastic bags to the debris site. Mr.
J acobovitz stated in over twenty-five years of picking up debris this is the first time he has seen that they
did not allow bagged debris. He stated J. B. Coxwell, who is running the site, did not want
contaminated mulch, so they disallowed bagged debris throughout the county. Mr. Jacobovitz stated the
easy answer was to have Advanced Disposal remove the bagged debris, however, the City pays for it,
and our goal is to pick up the bagged debris at the least cost to our residents and be reimbursed by
FEMA. Discussion ensued.
Commissioner Stinson asked Mr. Jacobovitz to address complaints that Public Works was picking up
parks before the residents. Mr. Jacobovitz stated because it was a safety concern, as citizens are still
using our parks in spite of areas we had taped off because they were unsafe. Discussion ensued.
Mayor Reeves wanted to go on record that he is not receiving special treatment, he still has stuff in front
of his house.
Mayor Reeves stated he had discussions with Mayor Cuny when Mr. Jacobovitz could not get a
response from Will Williams and people at the plant about whether they would take bags or not. Mayor
Reeves stated his conversation with them was that there was a conflict about not having a contract to
grind up the debris that we were hauling to Girvin Road, so they stopped taking our stuff. Mr.
Jacobovitz stated they stopped for one night. He stated, when we first stalied on October 101h, he
contacted Public Works in the City of Jacksonville and they said it was fine with the City of Jacksonville
if the landfill would accept it. He called the landfill and they said fine, just haul it here. He stated we
were hauling it for about 1 0 days and then someone figured out that we did not have our contract in
order with them, they had given us the verbal permission to do it, but not the contract in place. Mr.
Jacobovitz stated we had to get a piggyback contract to use the City of Jacksonville's contract with
Coxwell to accept it at the temporary debris site to grind it.
Mayor Reeves asked what is the dollar amount of the piggyback contract. Mr. Jacobovitz stated the
terms were up to $500,000, which is the same amount we had given our hauler. Mayor Reeves stated he
just wanted to make sure we are doing this legal and wanted to ask the City Attorney. He stated we
were not under an emergency declaration and we have just entered into a half a million dollar contract
with a contractor, with no bid, nothing. He stated the City Manager has the authority to sign any
contracts or make purchases of$25,000 or below. He asked City Attorney Durden ifwe are legal in this
contract or do we need to call a special meeting emergency action to approve this contract.
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City Attorney Durden stated she has not seen any of the documents to which he is referring. She has not
seen the emergency declaration, she has not seen the contract and therefore she cannot speak to the
matter. Mayor Reeves stated he did not wish to stop the debris pickup, but wants to make sure that
legally the City has not violated any state law of signing a half a million dollar contract that has not been
approved by this Commission in any process. City Attorney Durden stated she would be glad to look at
the documents, but it would be irresponsible of her to answer the question.
Mayor Reeves asked the City Manager to explain this. City Manager Van Liere stated, in the years that
he has been here, in the purchasing part of our Code of Ordinances, when there is an emergency he can
exceed the $25,000. It does not mean an emergency declaration, like for FEMA. He read from the City
Code of Ordinances, Sec. 2-3 3 8 (1) Scope of purchasing authority. He stated these are things that are
also exemptions to the bid process and when there is an exemption to the bid process for emergencies,
he has the authority to do that. He stated we typically come back and report to the Commission what we
have done and this has been used many times and he gave examples. He reiterated, not because of an
emergency declaration for a storm, but a city emergency.
Mayor Reeves stated he understands that, he knows the difference. He stated he is still concerned that
the City Manager has the authority to obligate the City to a half a million dollars, adding, if we do not
get reimbursed, that is a lot of money. He stated, in his opinion, he believes some kind of special
meeting should have been called and at least infonn the Commission that this was going to happen. A
lengthy discussion ensued ..
Commissioner Hill suggested the Mayor make a motion to declare an emergency so we can move on
from this. Mayor Reeves stated he needed legal advice if we can even do that. Discussion continued.
City Manager Van Liere stated he felt that what he has done is okay, and suggested the Mayor make a
motion to authorize the City Manager to enter into a contract with J. B. Coxwell piggybacking on the
City of Jacksonville not to exceed $500,000, which is basically what he signed. Mayor Reeves asked
the City Attorney if it is okay to do that after the fact; he needs some legal advice.
City Attorney Durden stated a contract can be brought forward after it has been entered into and ratified
by the City Commission, if the City Commission chooses to do so. She referred to a copy of the
Proclamation declaring the State of Emergency that the City Clerk passed over to her and she questioned
whether it had been executed, which it was explained that the original one was. City Attorney Durden
asked if there was another Proclamation that terminated the emergency and Mayor Reeves stated he sent
an email to the City Clerk on October 13th to notify the Commissioners that the emergency declaration
would be lifted at noon tomorrow, October 14th.
Mayor Reeves stated Commissioner Hill made a very good point that we could declare an emergency,
but the City Manager should come back to us, he does not have a contract, we do not have the back up,
and he wants to be transparent. Mr. Jacobovitz stated we have a contract, a copy of the one Jacksonville
properly put out, advertised and awarded. City Attorney Durden stated if she was provided with the
contract in conjunction with the provisions in our Code, she could provide an opinion.
City Manager Van Liere stated, because this is on a reimbursement basis, we will eventually need to do
a budget ordinance to fund these contracts. He stated he has spoken with Jacksonville Beach and they
have not done that either, but technically we will need to have an appropriation as well. In the effmi to
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move quickly, that is why we piggybacked and gave them notice to proceed and he believes we are
covered.
Commissioner Hill stated, in lieu of spending additional time doing legal research to find the quickest
way through it, we could make a motion to authorize these contracts. He stated we know we want the
garbage picked up, we know there is a set fee, we are not going to get a bargain, and he feels we should
do the most expedient action. Mayor Reeves stated he is still concerned about making a motion that
might be in violation of the law. City Attorney Durden stated the Commission is allowed to enter into
contracts for the collection of debris, that is not unlawful.
Motion: To ratify the contract the City Manager has entered into on behalf of the City for debris
and waste removal following Hurricane Matthew in the amount up to $500,000.
Moved by Waters, Seconded by Hill
(No vote was taken on this motion.)
Mayor Reeves stated, before we do this motion, are we required to have a motion to suspend the rules
because this was not on the agenda. Commissioner Hill asked if they should address the other contract
with Ceres Environmental for $500,000. Commissioner Waters stated that contract is already in place; it
is done. City Manager Van Liere commented that we also have the contract for the debris monitoring
with DebrisTech not to exceed $100,000. He stated it is piggybacked with Jacksonville Beach. Mayor
Reeves asked if we need to suspend the rules. Commissioner Stinson stated his understanding is we
need to have a motion to go into an emergency session to address this.
Motion: To go into an emergency session to address post storm debris pickup and other post
storm related issues.
Moved by Hill, Seconded by Waters
City Attorney Durden advised they would need to vote on the motion for the emergency session first,
before they could vote on the prior motion.
Roll Call Votes:
Ayes: 5-Hill, Stinson, Waters, Harding, Reeves
Nays: 0
MOTION CARRIED
Motion: To ratify the piggyback contract that the City Manager has entered into with J. B.
Coxwell for debris management following Hurricane Matthew.
Moved by Waters, Seconded by Hill
(No vote was taken on this motion.)
Commissioner Stinson requested that the motion be restated.
Discussion ensued and it was decided the dollar amount should be included in the motion.
Amended Motion: To ratify the piggyback contract that the City Manager has entered into with
J. B. Coxwell for debris management following Hurricane Matthew not to exceed $500,000.
Moved by Waters, Seconded by Hill
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Commissioner Stinson commented, they had a roundtable discussion about communication and feels
this is a good example. We could have ended this whole conversation had we been noticed that this was
happening. He expressed that he would like to see that in the future.
Roll Call Votes:
Ayes: 5-Stinson, Waters, Harding, Hill, Reeves
Nays: 0
MOTION CARRIED
Motion: To ratify the piggyback contract with the City of Jacksonville Beach that the City
Manager has entered into with DebrisTech for monitoring of debris removal within the City not to
exceed $100,000.
Moved by Waters, Seconded by Hill
Commissioner Hill commented the shorter they have to monitor our trash, the better; we do not have a
choice, but it is a tough one to swallow.
Roll Call Votes:
Ayes: 5-Waters, Harding, Hill, Stinson, Reeves
Nays: 0
MOTION CARRIED
Discussion ensued.
Motion: To end the emergency session
Moved by Stinson, Seconded by Waters
Votes:
Ayes: 5-Harding, Hill, Stinson, Waters, Reeves
Nays: 0
MOTION CARRIED
10. Reports and/or requests from City Commissioners and City Attorney
City Attorney Durden
• Filed our response today in the Gate Petition case. She will forward it to the City Manager and
the Commission tomorrow.
• The Commission recently suspended enforcement of the sign code and she was tasked with
trying to ascertain a reasonable budget for a complete rewrite of the sign code. She has spoken
with several people who have done sign code revisions, including William Brinton, a lawyer
with Rogers Towers Law Finn, who is a nationally recognized expert in the revision and
constitutionality of sign codes. She stated Mr. Brinton is willing to assist the City of Atlantic
Beach with the revision of the sign code. Mr. Brinton estimated the cost would be approximately
$15,000. She recommends we authorize an engagement letter for Mr. Brinton to proceed.
Mayor Reeves stated he felt we should have a workshop on this topic before moving it forward.
Commissioner Hill stated he did not feel there was a need to go outside our staff to rewrite the sign
code. Commissioner Stinson asked City Attorney Durden if Mr. Brinton gave her a time frame that this
generally takes. She stated typically a three month process. Commissioner Waters stated historically it
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has been the practice of the City to look at best practices and other examples of well-written ordinances
to utilize the resources that other cities have already put into an issue in writing our own ordinances.
She is an advocate for not reinventing the wheel if we do not have to. Discussion ensued. The decision
was made to have Mr. Brinton come to the Commission Meeting on November 14, 2016 to make his
presentation. Commissioner Stinson requested the Community Development Board members be
specifically noticed about Mr. Brinton's appearance on the 14th and City Clerk Bmile agreed to notify
the members to attend the meeting.
City Clerk Bartle
• Attended the Public Records class in Jacksonville Beach, along with two other employees and
believed it was very informative.
Commissioner Harding
• Asked for continued prayers for a member of our community, who is also a JSO officer, who is
in serious condition in the hospital.
Commissioner Waters
• Commented how well the City handled the emergency response after and during Hurricane
Matthew. She expressed gratitude and thanks to everyone.
Commissioner Hill
• Commented on the severe damage in Huguenot Park and how fmiunate we are in this city.
• Pleased with the answer given about our debris pickup, and thanked Public W arks Director and
the City Manager VanLiere for a well-thought-out response.
Commissioner Stinson
• Will be out of the country for the November 28th Commission Meeting.
• Commented on discussions with ABET and First Act.
• Thanked the City staff for all their hard work and quick responses.
• Commented on the JSO officer who is having a very difficult time and asked for continued
prayers for him and his family.
Mayor Reeves
• Stated it is very important to get the dunes back in good shape.
• Attended the League of Cities in St. Augustine.
• Encouraged the Commissioners to go to the Lifeguard Station and take a tour to see the damage
to our beaches.
• Commended Interim Chief Gualillo for taking care of our citizens and stepping up to take over
for Chief Deal.
• Commented on all the damage to St. Augustine and how blessed we are.
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Adjournment
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There being no further discussion, Mayor Reeves declared the meeting adjoumed at 10:10 p.m.
ATTEST:
Donna L. Bmile, CMC
City Clerk
Mitchell E. Reeves
Mayor/Presiding Officer
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