Exh 8CAGENDA ITEM #8C
MAY 9, 2005
STAFF REPORT
City of Atlantic Beach
Commission Meeting
AGENDA ITEM: Numbering on Seminole Road
DATE: Apri126, 2005
SUBMITTED BY: David E. Tho~ ,Chief of Police/DPS
Research by Don Ford, Building Official
BACKGROUND:
At the Monday, Apri125, 2005 City Commission Meeting, Commissioner Waters raised
the issue of numerical addresses on Seminole Road being inconsistent. Specifically, he
related an incident when, due to the numbering, a police officer had to stop and turn
around to find an address on Seminole Road. Staff was asked to check into this problem
and report back the fmdings to the City Commission.
History: The numbers on the east and west sides of Seminole Road do not correspond
from approximately 18`~ Street to Garden Court. Please see the attached map with the
.. highlighted numerical addresses.
' Until the 1980s, the west side of Seminole Road was actually in the City of Jacksonville.
. As a result, Jacksonville established the numbers for the houses fronting on the west side
of Seminole Road. At that time, the numbers did not correspond to the houses on the east
side of Seminole Road.
When this area was annexed into Atlantic Beach, the discrepancies were noted, and no
action was taken to rectify the problem with numbering. This issue was brought to the
City Commission in May and June of 1990, but no action was taken. A number of
residents who would have been affected by changing the addresses expressed opposition
to changing them.
Today: Currently, there are approximately forty (40) residences on the west side of
Seminole Road with addresses that do not correspond with the east side of Seminole
Road.
Public Safety Issues: Due to the inconsistencies in house numbers, there are going to be
occasions when police, fire, and/or rescue personnel are delayed in responding to
problems at those addresses. Although most emergency responders become familiar with
the numbering differences, there are constantly new people being hired that will not know
about the numbering problems. Occasionally, there are going to be delays, perhaps a
minute or two, in the responses to these residences.
AGENDA ITEM #8C
MAY 9, 2005
• Homeowner Issues: Changing the numerical addresses can create some significant
inconveniences for residents. Addresses would need to be changed on utility bills,
vehicle registrations, driver's Licenses, insurance paperwork, deeds and mortgages, and
virtually all other businesses and personal acquaintance correspondence. Typically, some
people will lose touch with some infrequent, long term friends who do not receive the
updated address information. Stationary and return address labels will need to be
replaced, and the list of adjustments can be extensive.
Balance: The issue as to whether or not to require changes in the numbering of the
.. residences becomes one of balancing interests. Based on probabilities, it is unlikely that
a slight delay in emergency response time will be significant to residents. However, the
delay of emergency services for one (1) or two (2) minutes may be critical when the heart
rate and/or respiration of an individual have ceased.
BUDGET: None
RECOMMENDATIONS: None
ATTACHMENTS: City Commission Minutes Page Nine, May 14, 1990
City Commission Minutes Page Nine, May 29, 1990
City Commission Minutes Page One, June 11, 1990
Map of Numbered Residences on the North end of Seminole Road
REVIEWED BY CITY MANAGER:
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1`li7tian: Dl'~.Ft l,cf:t~'.r' t0 'o F'nf'nrr~nt Btk-zrd ~~ressirg j Caoi~:
. t-1-~e rrs~,; ~~~* s concxrn regazrling the At]~as 1 E.:,~.ards
Electric properi-y and e~t~izing th? nccd to ~ Tuc}~er
. ~ enforce t2ae ord»~ cz~vorning sua'~ unsightdy ~ Gulliford
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Dlsc.,:ssi.cj:. O: t: ° I:~l'..er•e.'1S::~ a:. r.":C. C'Lt;J n~tvr.^.@V Sc.ld t.'L't '~~
. t7 s' ouJ_.^°ss ln~olved ~e=:~g cn tzasa 1..:.;u, ~t ~'ry }x I,
n..~~ssa.-y for h1II: t ; race provision for stori:.~ o= szicldi^g ~~ se
ite-ns frt;.r. view. The question was called a-~d tza ~tior. carric~
. unani~uslti•.
. ~, Ca-a?.~~~~~s Cock inquire iz`o ,-^.a st~.~.:s ct t~e,renL:,~xi.~g of
j'- :-.c::ses at t^.a ::o:t~ end o= SE.:.inole Fad ara Don . orc said o
{ was w~~~ci.^g on th~.t arra ot.~:== s::.L~:.s w-i.t_z si.:ilar ~-obl~;s.
• ~ Cook a?v0 Il')t['.d ttlcl.. ~.e e.~''..E.'1510.^. O:. '~~5.. lath
Street had recently xen ox.~ed t'Z•-ouch to t~~.vport ;xd.
Since this street :.as i~ li.^w w~~h t'~e ~~st~ly ex~,~.~si:^. of
Pla:.a he ~ ~~~ad ::teeth`.: it x•,~d hz rena-:~,: "~st _?ala."
'?'.'1r Clt~i :~..~C°.'' 'n~S C'ilreC",..r-.." :.o locJ: 17:j..O t:15 a:-:d report
bawl to the C~:assion.
.-- Navor Gullifond rccorteci:
- ~ t:e had rexit td ,.orresx::.e:.cr recarci.ng ar: event cal?.ed
"Pa•.;.se fer t ~ Pledca of :~llegi~.ca" o n 3:~ ~ ln, at 7:00 P:~I
sponsored by ~^e~:at.ena? plag D~.t :c•,:^.::atie::, ?::..., k-hicz ha
pas: ~ alor.5 to Parr and ~.?creGtio n Dirooto= for altenl.cn.
- hz rad receives a letter fry ~:.rba_ra I~vir:a of t.:e t4i.llia.^~
Coo ~:dcorY'..isi~g agency' re7Gr^,.i-~g tha ~.ird annurl
"Sa'sash a~::' to y held at ~^o Sea T.lz'.:le Ire en ~ulvZ6,
. 1990, wti.a: he said w~o'.,.ld hri^.g :bout 90G acvar-...isi:.g
' professio nals :o t:~is area. 'ra sai.d 'r.'a :ti~u?d pre:are a
prxlar~.+t'_on ho~:cring the ever:.
- aoal_caticns ..ad ~-~ re:.eived for ir:.s:cial r~;viscr. e
SL:CCeSteC : ~C a^..OZ.1Cat=0:2S tiJ3 S .:]~-.Z.1S...OQ W^.,^. ...... '.A~ t.'1reE'
' ~ aa,_.,,~~lica.^ts izvi~ ~ ::.ke a pres~ntat:cn `~-o t: e City
\..i-.'.I..LLJJZC : '.~ a~poi.Zte:: '~.t~° ci.^.c:I:ce Di~*-ec`•.er, C_~y :~'ys:acer
a.^.d C~T.illssicner ~i'eld.^.a^. to ,::ev].?:J $pp? .'Cut-cnS 2,.^i.~.. presen~ Z
suggested short-_..st.
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ccir,.issi.cn~ at :3yport c ,::Y ~ l6, 1990 a~ is e~:ozct_~.^: to
. cr~~: f.-c.:, :0,000 t0 12,000, +'lclt;c~.g ~i~V d~7.::.~.les. re
'said tZev w;-.17.d ne-~d assis~ ~e wilt: traff_c cozt_-ol, as ,ca? 1
' as fi^a:.ci~ assistarcc end hs a:au :3 provide ad3i.tic.~1
nforna::ion later.
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. 8 City Marac~er remr±-~ and/a:. corre_~ndence:
i a City rLL~cer std he ~,nu' d p ~4^.:de a w~i:.tez rel-. or r on th°
• ~ recent conference of the Florida City and Ccu.~~ty tiL-:..^ag~~..nt
mss:-cia~,.ian i.-~ ~.e rwar future.
• T~ Ci~•t~y At/~tor~y report~cd~: t~ r~e~ y... ~n/~~~1 l
- <71• Vrde_ a_ ~Cw.'Y.+u~ :~4 ~eT: .ll~C~v. 4r.i..t ~...~t:.b.•W.• J.n
• ~:rect=on ~~`i.t': ~^nent danai.^ proc~~ings o : p:c;.,.ertiy ir.
Secticn H w:Zic:Z was rewr.=rte _`or a lift statier..
- e had receivew a cLery fry t.:e Euilc.ir:g :,er.,a.~t:e^.t rep,. ardir~
. ar. oceanfro: t lot at the nortZ e.^.d. of tze private rca3 nort:~
of 20th St=E-~:t. Ee said tho ati:.cr oropos~ ~o sell a por`acn
. of }.~:° lot arc :•:anted to :,::.-~c i~ it co::ld x trea`..ed ~:s a
do..::.le f:.o :`.ayL lot ar.,d ~:at each por':.io:~ of z::e ict rould ~
" iJ.iild cn _:.tiep ~:rden tly. .., ~ ssiawr Coo;c sa_d _ reseal zo.*iing
would allay seve.: ayelling ;:z~.its and it caculd a_ pear to be in
. t':e ci.yty' s ~:s'.: i n`..erests to ~l.la~' t:'~e civisic : of tho Iot in
' arde.- l.~ reJT.w~MC. ~1C'. ~ l..~i .~e+ 'ar `~'..~i+.~~ w1~._C..7 wV~r, wl.~". N1~ ~ v. i'~
=.^.Q'; ~TyeC. ~I1.A ..:.e pCJS2}Jlllty Oi +'.r. 2yaec.'"TL3`:.. 'v.:1C."e."L' t.~'1°_ C_~t7
would ally the lot to ~ divic~ pr•-cvidew t'~°_ an: ors w-a`: I.d
acree to :,uild cnly a si.cle-fsznily c~.~al? i.^g en ea:.h lot.
~--~ n.a~ter a f.:1 ? discussion: of tie :'r3ttE'..'". it was ap _a~ent if t.^.e
v~,-n~-- decid ~ to p=xeed `~i :iz ^.e sale of a pcrtic^ of ~.1:e
. property i;e would xe doing so at his c.~-n r'_sk.
. - e had m~_ ,ait~ ~'s. Blac:•c:.-~ recardirc ~,,ho 16tY- Street
overpass ~*: r. d d'_.sci:ssed a:.t~ _-n~tivts, i^c_u::ir:r =elo:.atirg
. ~:°_ wc'3I::'r.2`J SO 1t w.,uld ae f'.._r',~:e: fYr7i:1 th° ~Cic Of hiS f1Cl:Se.
:~~r. J'ezsen said the o-zly o-~ er cp tio:~ wire to either-' rc.~we
t'~e ti.G'.._rc'h~y c~ietely or coast:...^ue with the litigation. ?t
was '.he gerer~' cpiri~: no reasonable ag~-e~-ant xi:ld bz rn e
with :•L. Ela:.{ard a~ i~z City tittorney was au~~crized to
. p_-ocea? w~.t.^ Lticatioa.
,~,ayar C~ZLiford rtxz:ested tze city parchasz a .:::ti flag for the
?~.::.lic Safety :c::ilcirg.
- T:.e :•:ayor a=so reported hil had =eoei~, ed a let..er frc.~n :•'~ .
.. Ch ndler regard..-:g 4:ze _ rc~sed street real:.-i~Ying ark: ire sa.d
Before a.-y cha.-:ces were r:4ce s.~.,r of those c~;:~.nts sho.:ld ~
. /'`i- a::.rCSSeG. '~'w C1;.'L :'.ter'.: ge= S'~.C '~i:C C=.ty C...:~T...S~~C.^. k~L11G ~c
adv~c--d of :fie +~.ctal plan. of acrion :z_`o_e a:, c'~.a:.gzs we
~.:e.
- The i•L:vor ~:lso provided the Cit±r Cleric with a ccp~* of a let~.~r
~rcn ?~Li.s 3. :~ c:,crs~ ads ~si~y tzat he .~.terr.ed ',.a rzlxate
. ,_., t_ze Selves T i:~•:side sign to _ ~s revia,isly ~~~i~cd '_araticn
• en the no:t~:west corner of 11th S".seet a^.^ Se.;1ir_ole ^~
. - ';re I•:ayor :aid ae h 3 bee_u co^ t~;:~ed by lire City Cler iz
cczr.ec*..-oa rd.;.h p.es4.-~~...^; cralcaees with ser<r.~ca ai^.s a:.d
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2~S2y'VZES OF Tex REGUI.~ MEETING OP THE ATLA.'dTZC BEACH CZTY COM-
. :~SSZON HELD ZN CITY HALL AT 7:15 PM O:l MO*IDAY, 3U;v'E II, 1490
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- P~.SE:~:T: kTilliaa i. G:aliford, Jr `:ayor
Robert 3. Cook, Sr.
:idelaice 3. Tucker, ar.3
Jo::n w. ;~eldon, Co:•~issio^z,s
nYD: i:itt D, ieiabaca, City ..amber
plan C. Jensen, City ~lttorncc
:•1aurLcr. l~:,n;, City Clerk
T. e weeting «as called to order b4 t:a}•ar G::Iliford. The
' invocation, o:fe_ed by Caanissio:cr Cook, kas Tolle»ed by the
p'_edge tc the flag.
1. An royal of the tainutes of the regular aeeting of :Say 29, 1990
::orlon: Approve rinutes of the regular erecting of May 29,
1990
2~e discussion before the vote. The ~otier, carried una^i,:.ously.
2. Recopnitioa of visitors
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?uth Gregg, 905 Sailf_sh Jrive, :eq::este3 tl:e _rstal_atio: of speed
' buWps on the west o:3 or Sailfisa Drive. The City }Iazagcr and
?dice Chief :ere asked to check into this a^d reno_t beer: at t're
ne:.c Co.^i.ssio : meeting.
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Jchr. ?. Chandler, 2025 Beach ~.veaue, addressed tae Co~issio:
reardi^g the proaosed renu~beria~; o certai, street addresses
*«itl:in the cite. lie said l:e felt t e incc::~.-e~ie :cc ::ou1d be `
greater t::4n t e benefits of sucE re: umbering a^d requested t::ey be
a lIa»ed to retain the current street :umbers or. Beac :~vz:ue. ~
Eath:cca russcll, 2_17 Bcaca ~.tienue, thanked the :ire Uepart~:ent
• for t::cir help _.. a recent c~craency situation ut Zcr haac. She
said her husb~^d 'nad been stung b~ a Portuguese ~12r.-a~-N'ar while
^2.rt°_Ci~atlnp in Z trlathal0: a^. t^e beaCll snd wediCal atte:2~1.On
::~s urgently ^.eeded. She ::rgad the city to riake sure t:edical
facilities ::ere available o: rotate city 5a:ICtiO^ed sporting
events. Sac felt consiste::cy o° street : u:aberi-:g «ould be aelpful
_.. such emerge .cy situations.
City star= were directed to install wall b locf number;, a::d
~' directional aria«s as street name signs. The City ::a^ager said a
~ rcrcrt o:t t'r~e praposed renuWber..^o is bci~g prepared 2nd would be
fcr...._det to tae Cit} Carr.issio^ -«hen cow?=ete a^d tl;e :vapor asked
t ,.t residents .-eceive apYro; _ate ^otificatio^, be=ore a:y
=e: L-'ocrirg ta'.:es place.
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