MinuteslYIINUTES
REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING
November 14, 2005
CITY HALL, 800 SEMINOLE ROAD
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Attendance IN ATTENDANCE:
Mayor Donald Wolfson City Manager Jim Hanson
Commissioner Mike Borno City Clerk Donna L. Bussey
Commissioner Jamie Fletcher City Attorney Alan C. Jensen
Commissioner Sylvia N. Simmons
Commissioner J. Dezmond Waters III
Call to OrderlPledge Mayor Wolfson called the meeting to order at 7:15 p.m. The Invocation,
given by Mayor Wolfson, was followed by the Pledge of Allegiance to the
Flag.
Approval of Minutes 1. Approval of the minutes of the Regular Commission Meeting on
November 1, 2005.
IVlotion: Approve the minutes of the Regular Commission 1yleetin~ on
November 1.2005 as written.
" iVloved by Simmons, seconded by Fletcher
Votes:
' ~ Aye: 5 - Borno, Fletcher, Simmons, Waters, Wolfson
Nay: 0
1VIOTION CARRII•/D
Courtesy of the Floor 2. Courtesy of the Floor to Visitors
" Amantha Massey-McLaughlin, 272 Camelia Street, identified herself as
a resident of the Marsh Oaks Community and asked the Commission to put
a halt to developing the land across from Tideviews Preserve. She spoke in
support of the effort to obtain and preserve the Buckman Trust wetlands.
Ms. McLaughlin indicated that the majority of the residents in her
neighborhood do not believe that building on the lots would enhance their
" community.
Karen Wong-Chan, 310 Country Club Lane, spoke against the decision
" for placing the mailbox in the Russell Park area. She noted that Russell
Park has a lot of activity and anything that increases traffic in the parking
lot, such as the mailbox, is very dangerous due to the amount of children
" playing in the area. She requested that they consider other areas to place the
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mailbox and rescind the earlier decision to place the mailbox in Russell
Park area.
Lisa Bruno, 375 and 377 Plaza, spoke against the new option of placing
the mailbox in a turnout area on Plaza. She believed that the new plan
would encourage and direct more traffic onto Plaza. She discussed the
public safety issues created by increased traffic and loss of parking in the
area and indicated it would also disturb the ambiance of the street. Ms.
Bruno supported placing the mailbox in the Russell Park area, noting that
this is already a municipal area and the location would be more convenient
for the citizens. She suggested the option of eliminating the mailbox and
redirecting citizens to the post office, to other nearby mailbox locations, or
to placing outgoing mail at their residences for pick-up.
Stephen'Kuti, 1132 Linkside Drive, proposed the following suggestions
for the Commission: #1) He recommended that:the Commissioners utilize
the parking spaces in front of the public safety building for parking during
the evening meetings. He was not in favor of reserving the already limited
spaces in the City Hall parking lot for this purpose. #2) He believed the
best spot for relocating the mailbox is next to the utility payment box in
front of City Hall. #3) He supported creating a right turn lane at the Five
Points Intersection, from southbound Seminole Road turning west onto
Plaza. #4) Mr. Kuti questioned why the City was spending money to design
the medians on Mayport Road when the City of Jacksonville has already
established a standard design that could be used there.
Casey Quinif, 544 Plaza, spoke against relocating the mailbox to Russell
Park. He expressed concern with the current overdevelopment and
increased usage of Russell Park and spoke against adding another item to
the area. He commented on the safety issues and possibilities for accidents
resulting from increased traffic if the mailbox was placed there.
Barbara Mears, 1604 Coquina Place, asked that the City arborist examine
an old magnolia tree located on City property at Coquina Place. She
believed the tree is diseased or infested and did not want to risk losing it.
She disagreed with locating the mailbox on Plaza, and spoke in favor of
placing it by the utility payment box in front of City Hall.
Campbell Ford, 1825 Ocean Grove Drive, identified himself as an
attorney representing Ms. Lindley Tolbert, who is requesting the
' Community Development Board consider a replat of property at Selva
. Verde. He indicated he was at the meeting so that he could address an issue
regarding a moratorium if it should be broached that evening.
J.P.1Vlarchioli, 414 Sherry Drive, spoke against adding any more mail
drops in Atlantic Beach. He suggested that the new entrance from Plaza to
' ' the Post Office should be publicized so that drivers will be made aware of
.. the easier access. He disagreed with placing the mailbox next to the utility
payment box, suggesting that payments and.mail could end up in the wrong
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boxes. Mr. Marchioli reiterated the need for aright-hand turn lane from
southbound Seminole Road onto Plaza. He commented on the speeding
traffic on Sherry Drive. He stressed the need to ensure there is proper
directional signage at the Five Points Intersection once it is completed.
Sheldon Weiner, 15 Tenth Street, provided the new Commissioners with
information he had distributed at a previous meeting regarding the dangers
of locating the mailbox by the tennis courts at Russell Park. He reviewed
drawings of the area that illustrated the traffic and pedestrian patterns most
prevalent when the park is in use. He noted the potential dangers involved
with increased traffic coinciding with the paths of kids going to and from
the skate park. Mr. Weiner discussed the issue of possible lawsuits
resulting from accidents occurring in the area and requested that the
Commission give staff permission to find better solution.
Unfinished Business 3. Unfinished Business from Previous Meeting
from Previous Meeting
A. City Manager's Follow-up Report
City Manager Jim Hanson referred the Commission to his written report,
which is attached and made part of this official record as Attachment A.
. His report addressed the following topics: environmental workshops at the
Adele Grage Cultural Center, the sexual predator law of the City of
` ' Jacksonville, lighting for Five Points Intersection, the Buckman Trust
property, and the payday loan ordinance.
The City Manager commented further on the issue of the Buckman Trust
property. He noted that questions from the elected officials and citizens
concerning this property were forwarded to the City Attorney and his
response was that considerable research and possible outside assistance may
be required to provide the answers. City Manager Hanson indicated that if
the Commission agreed with the need to pursue with the issue, they should
instruct the City Attorney to proceed with the necessary endeavors.
City Manager Hanson also discussed the payday loan ordinance being
considered by the City of Jacksonville. He recommended that Atlantic
Beach postpone making any decisions regarding adopting similar legislation
until the City of Jacksonville resolves the legal issues regarding the matter.
Mayor Wolfson acknowledged and reiterated the City Manager's
. recommendation to postpone any decision on the payday loan issue.
. , Consent Agenda 4. Consent Agenda
' ' A. Acknotivledge receipt of Public Safety and Code Enforcement
.. Report for September 200, Building Department Report,
Utility Sales Report, Public Works and Utility Department
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Report and New Occupational Licenses Report for October
200 (City Manager)
B. Authorize the Ntayor to sign the "Certification of Acceptance of
Subgrant Award" and subsequent paperwork associated with
the Office of Domestic Preparedness Grant (City Manager)
C. Extend the Landscape 1vlaintenance Contract for Utilities and
Public 1~Vorks with A Native Sun Landscaping for an additional
year at the current prices (Bid No. 030=1-5) (City Manager)
D. Kestner Road and Dutton Island Road Server Extensions -
Infrastructure for City Ownership and 1vlaintenance (City
Manager)
Commissioner Waters requested that Item A be pulled for further
discussion.
IYlotion: Approve Consent Agenda Items B through D as presented.
Moved by Simmons, seconded by Borno
Votes:
Aye: 5 -Borno, Fletcher, Simmons, Waters, Wolfson
Nay: 0
MOTION CARRIED
Commissioner Waters questioned why the bike path on Plaza was not
awarded and asked if it could now be completed instead of being left
unfinished. He suggested putting it back in the budget, preferably with the
current construction project, in order to have it completed.
Rick Carper, Director of Public Works, responded that construction of that
portion of the bike path is being delayed while he tries to find someone to
build a bridge needed for that area of the path. He indicated that he has a
quote for a steel bridge and is waiting to receive a quote for a wooden
bridge. He discussed the differences between constructing the two types of
bridges. Mr. Carper noted that once received, he will bring the information
on the bridge construction back to the Commission for direction.
Discussion followed regarding the differences between a steel or wooden
bridge.
Mr. Carper notified the Commission that construction will begin this week
on the bike path going west from Mayport Road to Rose Park.
Commissioner Borno complimented the City's Public Works and Utilities
directors for the conciseness and clarity of their reports.
Motion: To acknowledge receipt of Public Safety and Code
Enforcement Report for September 2005, Building Department Report,
Utility Sales Report, Public Works and Utility Department Report and
New Occupational Licenses Report for October 2005.
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Moved by Simmons, seconded by Borno
' Commissioner Borno asked for clarification on when the Occupational
Licenses are due. City Clerk Bussey provided the details regarding
renewals of the licenses still delinquent in their payments.
.. Mayor Wolfson announced that no vote was needed to acknowledge receipt
of the reports and directed the Commission to move forward with the
' ' agenda.
Committee Reports
Action on Resolutions
Action on Ordinances
~. Committee Reports
None.
6. Action on Resolutions
None.
7. Action on Ordinances
None.
' ~ Miscellaneous Business 8.
Miscellaneous Business
A. Approve designated streets For the Tree Planting Program (City
' ~ Manager)
City Manager Hanson described the success of the Adopt-A-Tree program
that the City has had implemented for several years. For this year's list of
streets designated for tree plantings, he recommended removing Royal
Palms Drive. He announced that the City plans to perform a lot of utility
work in the Royal Palms area and did not believe it would be wise to plant
trees that might have to be moved within the next couple years.
Motion: To an~rove designated streets for the Tree P[antin~ Program,
with a change to remove Royal Palms Drive from the list.
Commissioner Waters commended the City Manager for promoting the
program. He asked that the City look into the feasibility of planting trees on
, Dudley Street, across from the New Friendship church. He stated this
project was once proposed in the past, but was deemed incompatible with
' the utility infrastructure at the time. Mayor Wolfson suggested allocating
the trees originally designated for Royal Palms Drive to be planted on
Dudley Street. He asked the City to get a second opinion so that the
' Commission could discuss it at the next Commission meeting.
iVloved by Simmons, seconded by Borno
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Votes:
Aye: S -Borno, Fletcher, Simmons, Waters, tiVolfson
Nay: 0
MOTION CARRIED
B. Police/Cameras in Public Parks (City 1Vlanager)
City Manager Hanson asked Chief David Thompson, Director of Public
Safety, to review his report on this subject. Chief Thompson summarized
the options presented in his report and discussed the advantages and
disadvantages of each. He noted that his report was informational in nature
and did not provide a specific recommendation.
Commissioner Waters thanked Chief Thompson for his report. Discussion
ensued addressing the details involved with each.option presented.
. Commissioner Fletcher expressed interest in acquiring a report that provides
information on all of the possible alternatives available for deterring and
preventing crime in the public parks and their associated costs.
Mayor Wolfson noted that this was anon-action item on the agenda and
encouraged Chief Thompson to bring back a report to the Commission with
. information on how other cities have addressed similar issues and
successfully implemented programs to resolve them.
• Commissioner Simmons discussed the advantages of having a police officer
present in areas to deter crime and expressed concern regarding the crime
rates in certain areas, specifically Marsh Oaks. She suggested reviewing the
crime and safety issues during strategic planning sessions this year.
Commissioner Borno asked that information also be provided on the
unsuccessful attempts made by other cities.
C. Park Rules and Safety (City Manaber)
. Timmy Johnson, Director of Parks and Recreation, presented his report on
the difficulties that his department and staff have encountered when trying
to enforce park rules. He asked that the Commission consider changes to
... the City Code that would give the City the authority to enforce the rules and
address violators. He noted that the City of Jacksonville is moving in the
same direction by considering local legislation to resolve some of the same
problems. Mr. Johnson pointed out that violators of the rules are not
violators of the law and asked that Atlantic Beach consider adding
' ~ legislation that would provide the parks and recreation staff and police
• . officers with more authority to address these violators.
Commissioner Waters cautioned that if more stringent rules were adopted
they would need to be applied correctly and enforced humanely, especially
when dealing with children. He stated that he was willing to look at
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proposed changes but would need to give it serious consideration to ensure
it would be the appropriate action to take.
Commissioner Fletcher asked for further clarification regarding the specific
types of problems encountered. Mr. Johnson noted that most rule violations
were related to skateboarding, and cited examples of skaters not wearing the
required helmet protection or skating in areas where that activity is
prohibited. He indicated that violators know that the City has no real
authority over them and often the City staff and officers receive abuse when
attempting to enforce the rules.
Commissioner Simmons asked for clarification on the State statute
regarding helmet requirements for the skate park. Chief Thompson
explained that the State statute protects the City from liability but does not
make it a criminal offense to violate the helmet requirement. He further
clarified that the State bicycle helmet law for children is different because it
is not an arrestable offense, but can result in a fine if violated. Chief
Thompson noted that the City could consider implementing a similar type
' of fine penalty for enforcing the park rules.
Commissioner Borno indicated the need for individual responsibility and
civil respect from the public and noted that it is generally a small group of
individuals who challenge the rules and need to be punished.
Commissioner Fletcher proposed utilizing peer pressure amongst the kids to
help enforce the rules in the parks. City Manager Hanson noted the
difficulties involved with controlling kids who refuse to even leave the park
when ordered.
Mayor Wolfson suggested moving forward with the recommendation in the
staff report to consider changes to the City Code in order to better enforce
park rules and address the violator of those rules. He asked that staff study
the situation further and bring back a recommendation for the Commission.
D. Request for a Waiver from Land Development Regulations
Requirement for On-Site Retention for a lot located at 1718
' Selva Marina Drive (City Manager)
Rick Carper, Director of Public Works, provided an overview on this item.
' He noted that the lot was previously undeveloped but now has a new home
under construction on it and the property owner resides in Maryland. He
reported that the owner has requested a waiver to be relieved of the onsite
' retention requirements. He proceeded to explain the purpose and details of
.. the City's ordinance pertaining to the requirements for on-site storage of
stormwater runoff.
Mr. Carper explained that he chose not to approve the waiver during his
permit review process. City Attorney Jensen asked if the owner requested
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an appeal of 1VIr. Career's decision. It was confirmed that they have
requested a waiver from the City Commission but were not present at this
meeting. Mayor Wolfson asked for explanation of the waiver process and its
involvement with the Community Development Board to date.
Sonya Doerr, Community Development Board Director, explained that this
type of application for a waiver from the land development regulations
specifically comes before the City Commission. She noted that it is a
different procedure from a zoning variance request that is heard by the
Community Development Board.
1Vlotion: To deny a request for a waiver from Land Development
Regulations requirement for nn-site retention for a lot located at 1713
Selva Marina Drive.
1Vloved by Simmons, seconded by Waters
Mayor Wolfson inquired if the applicant, or a representative for the
applicant, was present. Mr. Carper acknowledged that he had spoken with
. the building contractor, but had never spoken to the applicant and did not
give notice to anyone that the item would be acted upon at the meeting that
evening.
Commissioner Borno spoke against granting the waiver if the City's
ordinance and code did not support the request.
Commissioner Waters did not believe it was fair to vote on the item if the
applicant was not notified that the Commission would be acting upon it.
Further discussion ensued regarding the effects that might result if the
waiver was granted. Commissioner Waters indicated that the issue is
complicated and stated he would have preferred that the applicant was
notified and present to provide further information regarding it.
Discussion continued with Commissioner B.orno addressing the
responsibilities expected of individual property owners regarding issues of
onsite retention. Commissioner Simmons indicated that the applicant's basis
for his waiver request was erroneous and did not comply with City Code.
Mayor Wolfson inquired if the City failed to notify the applicant that his
request would be on the agenda. Mr. Carper acknowledged that the
applicant was not notified. Mayor Wolfson questioned why granting the
waiver would set a precedent when each waiver or variance application is
considered on a case by case basis. Mr. Carper responded that, in this
situation, granting a homeowner permission not to comply with the onsite
retention requirements makes it difficult to enforce this Code with other
property owners.
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Mayor Wolfson expressed concern with the City not notifying the applicant
that his request would be on the agenda. He believed the applicant should be
' given the opportunity to come before the Commission to state his case.
' LVlotion: To substitute original motion with motion to defer action on
' the agenda item until the o~vner or contractor has Been notified and
given time to appear before the Commission
Moved by Simmons, seconded by Fletcher
Votes:
Aye: 5 -Borno, Fletcher, Simmons, Waters, Wolfson
Nay: 0
- 1VIOTION CARRIED
E. First Vehicle Services Non-Contract Labor Rate (City Manager)
City Manager Hanson reviewed his report and discussed the contract
increase being requested by the City's garage contractors for their Non-
. Contract Labor Rate. He advised that the City recommended changing that
rate from the original $22.50 to $28.30 per hour, as calculated according to
the same CPI adjustments provided in the contract.
Commissioner Waters questioned why First Vehicle Services would accept
the recommendation of $28.30 per hour when they are actually requesting
$40.00 per hour. City Manager Hanson explained that the City does not
have any obligation to raise the amount as much as they are requesting.
Commissioner Waters expressed concern with the quality of service received
by the contractor if there is conflict with the amount being granted to them.
City Manager Hanson responded that the rate being discussed applies to a
small amount of work and the actual total difference between what is being
asked by First Vehicle Services and what is being offered by the City would
not amount to much of a discrepancy.
l~Totion: To approve anon-contract labor rate increase for First Vehicle
Services from $22.50 per hour to $28.30 per hour, and include the non-
contract labor rate in future CPI adjustment`s.
Moved by Borno, seconded by Simmons
Commissioner Borno questioned if the services provided and the
contractor's proposed fees are truly compatible with the garage rates outside
of the City. He commended the City Manager for presenting the issue in a
proper context so they could move forward with it.
Votes:
' Aye: 5 -Borno, Fletcher, Simmons, Waters, Wolfson
Nay: 0
1yIOTION CARRIED
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F. Hurricane Debris Removal (Vegetative Waste) (Bid No. 0405-
. 15) & Hurricane Debris Removal (Construction & Demolition !
Mixed) (Bid No. 0405-28) (City 1Vlanager)
City 1Vlanager Hanson noted that the current sanitation contractor provided
excellent service last year in clearing debris after the hurricanes. However,
he advised that if the City experiences any worse storms it will require a
larger or more specialized contract to handle the resulting situation. He
noted that this contract would be supplemental and would allow the City to
• use their existing solid waste hauler andlor the new contractor if approved.
Motion: To ativard the contract for Hurricane Debris Removal Bids
(Nos. 045-15 and 0405-28) to the low bidder. Custom Tree Service, to
fulfill service as stated in case of dire need.
Moved by Simmons, seconded by Waters
Mayor Wolfson expressed concern with the bid from Custom Tree Service
being so far below the competing bids and questioned their commitment
and ability to provide the service if granted the bid. He asked Rick Carper,
Director of Public Works, to provide more information.
Mr. Carper discussed the list of equipment provided in the bid, the current
contracts held by Custom Tree Service, and their references.
Commissioner Waters expressed similar concerns regarding the low bid and
asked what the consequences are if a contractor underbids a job. Mr.
Carper responded that the City does not pay the contractor ahead of the job
so if the contractor does not provide the service, there is no cost incurred.
He added thaC he researched the possibility of acquiring a performance
bond, but discovered that bands are not generally provided for contingency
jobs that might not even be performed.
Commissioner Borno reiterated that this contract is only supplemental to the
City's primary waste removal system. He pointed out that concerns
regarding the contractor abandoning the contract and not performing the
services when needed could be applied to any of the other bidders, as well.
Votes:
` Aye: 5 - Borno, Fletcher, Simmons, Waters, Wolfson
.. Nay: 0
MOTION CARRIED
G. Extension of the Existing Contract with Waste Services of
Florida for Solid Waste Services (City 1blanaber)
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City Manager Hanson provided information on the contract with the waste
service hauler, noting that it is nearing the end of its five-year period and
' the City needs to give asix-month notice to the contractor if they intend to
extend it. He indicated that the existing contractor has provided excellent
service and has established good relations with the City. However, the City
has recently received communication that the Contractor is losing money on
the current contract and would prefer not to extend it. The City Manager
reported that the contractor indicated a willingness to submit a bid, if the
City put it out to a re-bid. He also noted the City could anticipate a need to
raise the sanitation rates in the near future, due to the increase in the CPI
and fuel costs, regardless of which option they chose. He indicated the
options are to extend the current contract with Waste Services of Florida, or
' rebid the contract. He noted that some options for new contracts could
lower costs to the City by including modern collection processes
(automated) or reduced number of collection times. However, the City has
` not yet acquired the specific numbers comparing_the overall increase in
.. rates to the various cost saving options.
Steve Wright, General Manager of Waste Services of Florida (WSF), stated
. that Mr. Hanson covered his company's position well.
Rick Carper, Director of Public Works, and the Commission discussed the
variables involved with a decision on this item. Topics covered included
the age of the contractor's equipment, new technology options, estimated
costs if the contract is re-bidded, level of service expected if contract is
extended, and possible results if contractor defaults.
Mr. Wright, speaking on behalf of WSF, explained that his company is
experiencing operational losses under the terms of the current contract and
asked that the City put it out to bid rather than extending it. He conveyed
WSF's willingness and intention to submit a bid if the City chose that
. option, but also expressed their intent to maintain their level of service and
not renege on the contract if the City chose to extend it.
' ' The Commission continued to examine the issues affecting and resulting
from cost increases, the terms of the current contract, the options available
to explore less costly services through a rebid, and the recourses available to
' ' the City if service falls below a standard.
City Manager Hanson pointed out that the Commission has one more
scheduled meeting before their deadline for notifying the contractor if they
. intend to extend the contract. He recommended delaying the decision in
order to acquire estimates of cost savings experienced by other cities that
have already moved to automated collection in similar situations. Further
discussion ensued regarding the issues involved.
Motion: To defer taking action for hvo more weeks so that the Citv can
gather and brim back more information from other cities.
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Moved by Simmons, seconded by Waters
Votes:
Aye: 5 -Borno, Fletcher, Simmons, Waters, Wolfson
Nay: U
1~10TION CARRIIJD
H. Discussion on P.O. Mailbox location (Commissioner Waters)
1Vlotion: To leave the mailbox where it is currently located on Plaza
and make adjustments as time demands.
1Vloved by Waters
MOTION DIED, due to lack of a second.
• - City Manager Hanson clarified that the previous-Commission had already
approved a decision to move the mailbox to'the tennis court location at
Russell Park. However, he noted, that decision has been put on hold due to
Commissioner Waters' request to place the item on the agenda for
discussion.
Motion: To remove the mailbox and newspaper stands completely
from their current location and not relocate anywhere.
Moved by Borno, seconded by Waters
Commissioner Borno discussed the concerns addressed and petitioned by
the citizens, including safety problems associated with the mailbox being
moved by the tennis courts, quality of life issues for residents around its
current location, and the number of other mailbox locations already existing
within the City.
Commissioner Simmons questioned the City's legal ability to remove the
newspaper stands. City Attorney Jensen explained that the City is allowed
to restrict the location of the stands.
All of the options presented for the mailbox location were discussed further
' ' by the Commission. Commissioner Fletcher spoke in favor of Option 4,
creating a cutout location on Plaza. Commissioner Waters expressed
concerns with Russell Park bearing the burden of so many activities and
' ' facilities being placed there by the City. He supported utilizing one of the
other park areas for the mailbox.
" • Commissioner Simmons proposed that none of the presented solutions
.. seemed suitable and recommended placing the mail drop out of the Five
Points Intersection area, possibly further north on Seminole.
• - Commissioner Borno withdrew the motion, followed by Commissioner
Waters withdrawing his second.
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1Vlotion: To have staff evaluate and present the Commission with
information re~ardin~ placing the mailbox in 1Vlandalay Park.
' Moved by Borno
` MOTION DIED, due to lack of second.
Mayor Wolfson asked the City Manager if any traffic studies have been
' ' performed to determine the usage of the mailbox. City Manager Hanson
responded that they do not have data to determine the usage or adverse
impacts of the mailbox. Mayor Wolfson spoke in favor of Commissioner
' ~ Borno's first motion to remove the mailbox completely and see what the
• results actually will be. He suggested that if there was still significant
demand for the mailbox, staff could then further research and address the
• ~ issue.
Motion: To remove mailbox and newspaper stands completely from
their current location and not relocate any where.
1Vloved by Borno, seconded by Waters
Votes:
Aye: 5 -Borno, Fletcher, Simmons, Waters, Wolfson
Nay: 0
` 1VIOTION CARRIED
' I. Selection of Mayor Pro Tempore (Mayor)
Mayor Wolfson discussed the role of the Mayor Pro Tem and the
` importance of that individual to have a clear understanding of the
. responsibilities of the Commission Chair.
Motion: To approve the selection of Commissioner Waters as Nlayor
• Pro Tempore.
Moved by Wolfson, seconded by Simmons
Commissioner Waters accepted the nomination.
• Votes:
• Aye: 5 -Borno, Fletcher, Simmons, Waters, Wolfson
Nay: 0
' • MOTION CARRIED
J. Discussion on Board Member Review Committee (Mayor)
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Mayor Wolfson referred the Commission to information relevant to this
item that was given to them that evening. The information is attached and
made part of this official document as Attachment B. He apologized for
not distributing the material earlier. Commissioner Borno stated that, given
the short notice, he had not yet had the chance to review the information
and requested that the item be deferred until the next meeting.
Motion: To defer Agenda Item 8J until the nest Commission meeting.
1vloved by Borno, seconded by Simmons
Mayor~Wolfson proceeded to provide further details and clarification to the
information he had distributed referring to Article II of the City Charter.
He acknowledged understanding the intent of the Resolution 0~-04, but
expressed concerns with it and asked that the Commission review the
changes he was proposing. The Mayor announced that he will place this
item on the agenda for the next Commission meeting.
Commissioner Simmons believed there was some conflicting information
about who makes the recommendations for appointments to the Boards and
Committees and requested that the next agenda packet also contain that
information.
Votes:
Aye: ~ -Borno, Fletcher, Simmons, Waters, Wolfson
Nay: 0
MOTION CARRII'JD
K. Buckman Trust (Mayor)
Mayor Wolfson noted that since the Johnston Island small scale amendment
to the City's Comprehensive Plan, there has been increased interest in the
Buckman Trust land. He informed the Commission that there has been
interest expressed by developers to acquire the property and by
conservation groups to preserve the property. He reported that one group
has requested the opportunity to come before the Commission in order to
propose a strategy to preserve the land from being developed. He expressed
his support for this idea and asked the Commission to consider all
possibilities for the land. He noted that the Commission could expect more
information on the subject within the near future.
Commissioner Fletcher thanked the Mayor for his efforts to preserve the
marshlands in that area.
L. Reserved Parkinb for Commissioners on Commission IVleeting
evenings (Mayor)
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Mayor Wolfson commented that there are certain times of the year when
parking is very limited and the Commissioners have had problems finding a
parking space on meeting nights. He believed it important that
Commissioners have direct access to parking in order to arrive on time for
official business. He clarified that he did not see it a necessity during the
days, but believed it would be beneficial to have designated parking spaces
for each Commissioner from 5:00 p.m. until midnight. He suggested that
the parking signs be covered during the day.so that they would be accessible
to the public during that time. Mayor Wolfson believed that the spaces in
front of Public Safety were needed by the Police Department and suggested
that five spaces just north of the front entrance to City Hall be reserved with
signs designating each Commission Seat number.
1Vlotion:~• To reserve parking for the City Commissioners two evenings
per month as outlined.
Moved by Wolfson, seconded by tiVaters
Commissioner Waters spoke in favor of the motion.
Commissioner Simmons and Commissioner Borno both spoke against the
motion and expressed that they have not experienced problems finding a
parking space for the meetings. Chief David Thompson, Director of Public
Safety, confirmed that the elected officials could park in the Public Safety
area when needed.
IVtayor Wolfson withdrew the motion, but the second to the motion was
not withdrawn.
Votes:
Aye: 2 -Waters, Wolfson
Nay: 3 - Borno, Fletcher, Simmons
MOTION FAILED
M. Possible Change to City Logo (IVlayor)
Mayor Wolfson clarified that he is not proposing to change the logo, but
rather, to make it easier to read the City's name on it. He passed around the
City's lapel pins to illustrate that there is no contrast between the City name
and the background color. He stressed the importance that the logo clearly
display the City's name.
Commissioner Borno suggested adding a line beneath the logo that has the
City's name on it. Mayor Wolfson acknowledged the suggestion but
believed the logo still needed to be enhanced by changing the colors so that
the lettering stands out more prominently. .
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City Manager Hanson said he could make the changes recommended and
bring it back to the Commission. Commissioner Borno suggested placing
the additional lettering on the pins already being used in the meantime.
City Manager 9. City Manager
A. City lYlanager's Report
City Manager Jim Hanson summarized his written report, which is attached
and made part of this official record as Attachment C. The issues
addressed in his report were: reduction in water use, TMDL regulations,
and City staff sent to aid Hurricane Wilma victims.
' ' In addition to the items in his report, the City Manager also provided an
.. update on the Five Points Intersection improvements. He asked Rick
Carper, Director of Public Safety, to report on the upcoming temporary
' ' closure of the intersection. The information displayed by Mr. Carper is
attached and made part of this official record as Attachment D. Mr. Carper
informed the Commission that, during the construction process, the City
discovered that the thickness of the pavement underground turned out to be
much less than assumed. Therefore, the contractor has requested a change
order for $10,000 in order to remedy the situation by taking out the non-
cohesive base and laying down a limerock foundation with asphalt poured
on top. He explained that closing the intersection completely would take
less time than correcting the situation one lane at a time. He reviewed the
schedule planned for the intersection closure and assured that it would be
` ' open to traffic on Saturday and Sunday and completely reopened by the
following Wednesday. Mr. Carper also displayed and discussed the detour
plans for traffic during the intersection closure.
Commissioner Waters asked for clarification of the signage to be used for
notifying~the public. Mr. Carper responded, stating that the City will be
' " using variable message boards, detour signs, blockades, and still provide
access to the City Hall parking lot.
Commissioner Fletcher inquired if the design of the new intersection can
. adequately accommodate the City's fire trucks accessing and exiting the fire
station. Mr. Carper responded that it will be improved compared to the
previous design.
Mayor Wolfson expressed concern specifically with the first day of the
closure. In addition to the signs and the contractors, he recommended that
police officers provide their professional assistance with directing traffic
and guiding the public. Chief Thompson stated his department shared the
same concerns and would be determining the best methods possible for all
involved.
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Reports/Requests 10. Reports and/or requests from City Commissioners and City
City Commissioners Attorney
City Attorney
' Commissioner Borno
• Asked if anyone would be attending the Florida League of Cities'
legislative meeting. Commissioner Waters reported that he was
' ' going.
. , • Mentioned the ?005 Transportation Summit being sponsored by the
First Coast MPO on December 15.
•:• Thanked the City Manager and staff for their update on the strategic
. , ..planning projects.
- Commissioner I+letcher
' • Expressed his concern with a request being brought before the
• ~ Community Development Board the next evening regarding
subdividing lots located at Twelfth Street and Selva Marina Circle.
He noted that citizens in that area have stated their opposition to the
request and believe it is inconsistent with the recommendations
presented by Winter and Company.
Commissioner Waters
' " • Noticed that Ms. Donna Harper has palm trees on her property
infected with the small conks. He believed the City needs to make
people aware of those types of situations if discovered.
Mayor Wolfson
• Congratulated the Public Safety Department on being awarded funds
from the Office of Domestic Preparedness Grant.
• Inquired about the report from Winter and Company. Asked Sonya
Doerr, Director of Planning and Zoning, if it would be acted upon at
the Community Development Board meeting the following night.
Ms. Doerr responded that there was no action scheduled for
tomorrow's meeting, only a discussion of the report. She informed
" the Mayor that they are intending to adopt or implement the
recommendations in February, but that the timeline is also
' dependent on public participation and how many meetings are held.
• Announced that tomorrow from 2:00-3:30 p.m. in the City
Commission Chambers there will be a webcast on eminent domain
' issues. He invited citizens to attend and observe.
•:• Inquired if a contract had already been submitted for the purchase of
a clock at the Five Points Intersection. Rick Carper, Director of
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. , Public Works, confirmed that the purchase order had been submitted
in order to meet the deadline for the discount offered. He noted that
the company could not produce a tide clock, but would accept
cancellation of the contract by Wednesday if that was the direction
the City wished to take. Mr. Carper added that research done on
' large scale tide clocks has been unsuccessful at finding a company
. , that makes them.
IYlotion: To cancel the contract to purchase a clock For the Five Points
Intersection.
Moved, by Fletcher, seconded by Wolfson
Commissioner Fletcher stated that, based on public comments, he believes
that purchasing a clock for the intersection is a poor expenditure of public
funds. Commissioner Simmons noted that she had originally voted against
the motion but was not comfortable voting against an approval given by her
fellow commissioners a month ago.
Commissioner Waters spoke in favor of the beautification process which
has been taking place over the last 25 years and did not believe it wise to
interrupt a project put in motion by the previous Commission with the intent
to make the City more attractive.
Commissioner Borno was not in favor of second-guessing the
commissioners prior to him, and recommended leaving their decision as it
stood.
Mayor Wolfson stated he was not against beautification of the City, but was
• against spending taxpayers' money to purchase a clock, if that was decided
• to be the best item to place there. He preferred to explore options of private
funding for whatever method is chosen to beautify the area and stated he
was strongly opposed to using the taxpayers' dollars for this purpose.
Votes:
Aye: 3 -Fletcher, Simmons, Wolfson
Nay: 2 - Borno, Waters
MOTION PASS'CD to cancel the nurchase of the clock.
• Suggested to defer the appointments being made to the Tree
Conservation Board and postpone the Board Member Review
Committee meeting until after the Commission has the opportunity
to address the resolution. Commissioner Simmons stated that the
meeting was scheduled for this week and the candidates have
already been notified of their appointments. Mayor Wolfson stated
he had no further comment then.
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Adjournment There being no further discussion, the Mayor declared the meeting
adjourned at 10:30 p.m.
' ' Donald M. Wolfson, MayorlPresiding Officer
ATTI/ST:
' ~ Donna L. Bussey '
-~ City Clerk