handout (3)Bartle, Donna
From: Stinson, John
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2018 8:53 AM
To: Bartle, Donna
Cc: Michael Tari
Subject: Fwd: 18th Street Proposal
Attachments: Parking Proposal.docx
Ms. Bartle
Please also include copies of this document from Mr. Wappes in the copies Ms. Williams will provide the
COmmittee tonight.
And again, thank you.
Kindest Regards
John M. Stinson
City Commission, Seat No. 2
Atlantic Beach, Florida
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From: "wappes@bellsouth.net" <wappes@bellsouth.net>
Date: Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 3:24 PM -0700
Subject: 18th Street Proposal
To: "Stinson, John" <jstinson@coab.us>
Cc: "TariHousehold@gmail.com" <TariHousehold@gmail.com>
Commissioner Stinson,
Hope your trip is going well.
Last meeting you suggested I come up with a proposal to address the parking situation on 18th. Recognizing
18th does not operate in a vacuum and adding/subtracting parking units from it could well have a domino
affect, I took the liberty of making adjustments from 15th to 20th that I believe are consistent with the Olsen
frontage figures. I think I have come up with a reasonable beginning for discussion. Attached are my
suggested changes. Please let me know if they make sense to you or if another format would be better. If my
very rough (and hopefully conservative) estimates are correct, the changes I propose have little negative
impact on neighborhoods along the beach between 15th and Hanna Park. Hopefully they will result in
significantly better access to our beaches for the wheelchair bound handicapped, provide better sight lines at
several congested intersections, rectify dangerous pedestrian accesses, resolve some dangerous traffic
congestion, while also enhancing the total frontage coverage for renourishmnent of Atlantic Beach beaches.
I assume the agenda already includes this as a topic. I do not have drawings or pictures to illustrate the
changes but can try to put them together if you believe they will be of benefit to the discussion.
Sincerely,
1
Dale Wappes
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Considerations:
1. Approximately 150 feet of overlap on Olson document north of 19th equates to minimum
of 2 unit surplus without affecting any calculations to the south of the area attributed to
18th
2. There are no handicap parking spots on 20th or Dewee even though of the 5 public accesses
between 15th and 20th, they are the only ones where wheelchair access is possible
3. There are 4.75 more parking spaces on 28th than are being counted toward
renourishmnent.
4. Combined parking spaces for Waters Park and Dewee St are 24 according to Olsen. COAB
reflects only Dewees parking (12).
5. Reconfiguring parking at Waters Park could result in a minimum net increase of 10-12
parking units with no real impact on park functions.
6. Renourishment non -coverage between 15th and 16th is approximately 50' beach frontage.
14th and 15th is 220'
13th and 14th is 180'
12th and 13th is 140'
Net approximately -590'
7. Parking should be designed to minimally impact existing neighborhoods.
8. Present/suggested parking unit measurements:
Standard
90 degree (nose in) 0 degree (parallel) 60 degree (diagonal)
8'X18' 8'X20' 9.3'X18' *
Handicap
12' X 17" (6' isle between 2) 12' X 22' (+4' isle side and rear) None
Motorcycle
3' X 6' 7' X 3' None
Bicycle
2 bikes per vertical
Add
Slow/micro mini Vehicle (FL code is 4' X 8' ?)
6.5' X 10' 6' X 12'
7'X12'**
*total parallel space needed at 60 degrees for a standard 8' wide parking space
parallel footage needed at 60 degrees for a 6' wide slow/micro vehicle
20th Street Parking Proposal
Add 2 verticle bike posts to existing 4 (+50)
Replace public access signage
Clear existing parking spaces of encroaching dirt/vegetation
(overlapping frontage 150')
+ 200'
19th Street Parking Proposal
Add 2 diagonal Wheelchair only handicapped parking spots East of the Beach/20th intersection
(+100')
Add 2 verticle bike posts (+50')
Convert 2 official use parking spaces to 3 SSV spots (+50')
+ 200'
18th Street Parking Proposal
Move base of stairs back 10' from Beach Ave.
Remove shower station at NW corner of 18th and Beach and reposition to top of the stairs.
Replace all nose in parking on the N side of 18th between Beach and Ocean Grove Dr with
2 handicap, 1 auth vehicle 3 marked parallel and 4 motorcycle and 5 nose in SSV)
Identify the first parking spot on the S side of 18th and Beach as Authorized vehicle
Change all nose -in parking on the N side of 18th between Ocean Grove and Seminole to 23
diagonal parking spaces. 46 frontage units
260'
Net +140'
Dewee St Parking Proposal
Change Dewee Dr between Beach and Coquina into a one way (east to west) street
Add one wheelchair only handicapped parking spot on NE corner of Beach/Dewee intersection
Add 6 additional marked parking spaces along the N side of the street between existing
driveways and Coquina PI and north on East side of Coquina PI
Add 4 post bike rack in/adjacent to park
Redesign Waters Park parking to add 8-10 additional diagonal/nose in spots instead of
parallel.
Total combined parking for Dewee/Coquina 1 hcp 1 Au 6 marked 8 bike
Waters Park 20
Net increase of 8-10 parking units over Olsen 24 combined figure resulting in a minimum of
400 feet of beach frontage
+ 400'
15th St Parking proposal
Add two parallel parking permeable surface parking spots to the W side of East Coast between
15th and Seminole + 100'
Net +640