MinutesNOTES FROM THE JOINT WORKSHOP OF THE ATLANTIC BEACH CITY COMMISSION
AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BOARD HELD IN COMMISSION CHAMBERS AT
5:00 P.M. ON MONDAY, JULY 24, 2000
City Commissioners Present:
John S. Meserve, Mayor
Mike Borno
Rick Beaver
Theo Mitchelson
Dezmond Waters, City Commissioners
Community DevelopmentBoazd Members Present:
Pat Pillmore
Don Wolfson
Staff Present:
Jim Hanson, City Manager
George Worley, Community Development Direcor
Maureen King, City Clerk
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The meeting, which was held for the purpose of reviewing the draft of the proposed new zoning
ordinance, was called to order by Mayor Meserve.
Discussion began with Section 24-112 Industrial Light and Warehousing District (ILW)
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Page 67 DiscussionregazdingtheintentofSpecialUseDistrict,specificallywhetheronesingle
family residence or multiple residences would be allowed. Likewise for repair shops.
Was the intent to allow one repair shop or multiple repair shops. It was felt that the
intent was to allow several residences for family members and that new construction
of residences or workshops would have to comply with zoning standards of the
surrounding area (R52). George Worley was asked to look into this and if necessary,
ask Alan Jensen for clarification before the next meeting.
Page 68 b(1) Should laundries be included in this section as a permitted use? Change to
Laundromat, but not dry cleaners. Put Laundromat back in definitions -Change 8(c)
to 9. Delete Churches from Use-by-exception list.
Page 69 (h)(1) Outside seating in public right of way. The question was asked whether
outside seating requests would come before the City Commission for approval and
it was pointed out that a lease agreement would have to be approved by the City
Commission and renewed on an annual basis.
Need additional language to .clarify reconstruction of non-conforming historic
structures (Section 85)
Discussion regazding 25 ft. height limitation. It was felt that height limitations should
also be considered on Mayport Road. May need to revisit CG district.
Page 70 Add "Chapter 24" before Article IV. (Second line from the bottom of the page)
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Page 73 (4) Commissioner Waters felt that homeowners' associations should be required.
Discussion but no changes
Page 74 (6) What elements aze being referred to? It was determined that it was (5) a, b, and
c. i.e. City wants a schedule of improvements and the order in which they will be
installed. Change the word elements in (6) (top of page 74) to something else or
delete Srst sentence.
Page 75 (b)(2) Correct scriveners error "of' general circulation. (3) Discussion regarding
requiring approval of all property owners. All property owners must be notified by
the city and must be in concurrence with the PUD application. It was felt that all
property owners included in the PUD should be required to sign the application, or
indicate in writing their approval of the rezoning. Failure to produce such
confirmation should render the application null and void. -Insert appropriate
language. George Worley felt this was already covered in (4) on page 72. and the
language on Page 75 could be changed to read that the procedure for adoption of a
PUD shall be in accordance with Section 24-130.
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Page 79 (1)a The question was raised as to whether this section would eliminate ham radios
and it was felt that it would not. Add the word "commercial" before transmission.
Page 80 Question was raised regazding (2)b and it was pointed out this subject was covered
in Page 90.
Discussion ensued regazding Pages 90 and 91. It was felt that the intent was not to
allow any RV pazking in front of homes but to allow parking of one RV behind the
front building setback line. Change language to require that parking of boats or RV's
be parked either behind the face of the building, or if undeveloped property, then
behind the front building setback line. Add language to prohibit parking of vehicles
of over 18,500 pounds. Need definition of commercial vehicle.
Page 81 Correct scriveners error on last line -change "incident" to "incidental."
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Page 83 Sec 154 -Discussion ensued regarding this section but no changes were made at this
point. However, several questions were raised and it was agreed to discuss-this
section further at the neat meeting.
The Fulayor declared the meeting adjourned at 7:05 p.m.
Maureen King
City Clerk
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE ATLANTIC
,,--~,~ BEACH CITY COMMISSION HELD IN CITY HALL, 800
SEMINOLE ROAD AT 7:15 P.M. ON MONDAY, JULY 24, 2000
PRESENT: John Meserve, Mayor
Richard Beaver, Mayor Pro Tem
Mike Borno
Theo Mitchelson
Dezmond Waters, Commissioners
AND: James Hanson, City Manager
Alan C. Jensen, City Attorney
Maureen King, City Clerk
The meeting was called to order by Mayor Meserve at 7:15 p.m. The
invocation was offered by Mayor Meserve, followed by the Pledge of
Allegiance to the Flag.
1. Approval of the minutes of the regular meeting held
July 10, 2000
The minutes of the Regulaz Meeting were unanimously approved as
presented.
2. Courtesy of the floor to visitors:
A. Don Phillips of 1566 Park Terrace, stated that he was a member
of the Stormwater Review Committee (SRC), but was speaking
as a concerned citizen regazding the failure of the SRC to meet
before the presentation by Aikenhead and Odom. Mr. Phillips
then read a checklist of key issues of concern for the project
which he felt should have been taken into consideration by
Aikenhead and Odom. The checklist is attached and made part of
this official record as Attachment A.
B. Juliette Sleeper of 700 Beach Avenue read from a prepared list
of concerns related to the construction of Bull Park and the
proposed renovations to the Adele Grage Community Center.
The list is attached and made part of this official record as
Attachment B.
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C. Stephen Kuti of 1132 Linkside Drive read a prepared list of
concerns related to the core city drainage project. The list of
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concerns is attached and made part of this official record as
Attachment C.
D. Blair Witherington of the Florida Fish and Wildlife
Conservation. Commission stated that his fifteen-year
experience with sea turtle nesting had shown that voluntary
compliance did not work well and he hoped the Commission
would pass a light management ordinance for the protection of
sea turtles. He indicated that sixteen counties and forty-three
cities had passed such ordinances, including Neptune Beach and
Jacksonville Beach. Mr. Witherington volunteered to act in an
advisory capacity to the city in this matter.
E. Nichole Gwyn of 10478 Theresa Drive, Jacksonville, Florida,
owner of Immortal Body in Ink located at 1249 Mayport Road,
requested Commission consideration to lowering the
occupational license fee for their business from $5,000 to a fee
similaz to that paid by the same type of business operating in the
City of Jacksonville. Ms. Gwyn indicated that other tatoo
businesses operating on Mayport Road, who are located in
Atlantic Beach postal district, pay an annual license fee of
$450.00.
F. Danny Thiele of 107 Azalea Place, Neptune Beach, supported
the earlier comments of Blair Witherington and repeated his
previous request that the Commission consider passage of an
ordinance regulating ocean front lighting during sea turtle nesting
season.
G. J.P. Marchioli of 414 Sherry Drive commented on the
following items: (1) an article he had read concerning sea turtles
killed by polluted oceans, (2) that the mulch in Howell Park was
difficult to walk on, (3) cars speeding on Sherry Drive, and (4)
that the license fee for tatoo businesses should be the same as that
for a pawn shop - $150.00.
H. Barbara Mears of 1604 Coquina Place reported that she had a
problem with having her yard waste picked up on a regular basis.
City Manager Hanson responded that there were several areas of
the city experiencing this problem and the city was working on
solving the problem. He further stated that contractors (tree
trimmers, etc.) were responsible for disposing of their own yard
waste.
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I. Jeff Sneed, a candidate for House District Seat 18, was
introduced by Commissioner Mitchelson.
Item 8A was taken out of sequence and discussed at this time.
8A. Discussion and possible selection of an architect for the
remodeling of the Adele Grage Community Center
(Commissioner Beaver)
Commissioner Beaver provided background information of the process
which led to the request for proposals (RF'P) for architectural services to
remodel the Adele Grage Community Center. Commissioner Beaver
stated that five architects had responded to the RFP and he then
introduced the top three architects chosen by the selection committee.
The following azchitects presented their conceptual plans for the existing
building and addition: Bazbaza Mears, William Ebert and Tat Chan
After the presentations, Commissioner Beaver indicated he would like
the Commission to review the RFP's as soon as possible since he would
l""'` like to apply for a historical grant which is due by the end of August. He
further indicated that Tat Chan had been the number one choice of all
five of the committee members.
Motion: Approve the City Manager to negotiate with. Tat
Chan to provide renovations to the Adele Grage Community
Center.
Commissioner Waters objected to the manner in which the top three
architects were chosen. He felt the Commission, not the committee,
should have ranked the firms.
City Attorney Jensen advised that the Commission should rank the firms
and then authorize staff to negotiate with the top ranked firm.
Discussion ensued and Commissioners Mitchelson and Beaver withdrew
their second and motion respectively.
It was the consensus of the Commission to defer this item to the next
Commission meeting to allow the Commission time to review the RFP's
for ranking of the azchitects.
~ J. Aikenhead and Odom with report and recommendations on
the Core City Stormwater Improvements
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Fred Odom, P.E. provided a brief overview of the project and introduced
Dale Smith, P.E. for further explanation of the recommendations.
Using a powerpoinYpresentation illustrating the proposed improvements.
Mr. Smith reported that they now had a validated model for the core
city to within half a foot from Howell Park to Wonderwood. He
recommended desilting of the main channel of the drainage system,
including the Howell Park lagoon and the A-1-A canal to Puckett Creek ,
as well as the deepening of the Selva Marina lagoon. It was pointed out
that the 11`" Street culvert would be replaced by a box culvert.
In-place recycling of asphalt, which will be used during the street
reconstruction, was briefly explained. It was pointed out that 1 s` - 12`h
Streets would have inverted crowns, whereas, Sherry Drive, Plaza and
Ahern Street would have curb and gutter. Mr. Smith indicated that
drainage work on Seminole Road from Plaza to 12~' Street would be
constructed on the east shoulder of the road and would not impact the
street. It was pointed out that constructiomfrom Ahern to 10"' Street
would minimally impact the tree canopy and no trees would be removed
from Howell Park during the dredging process. Other maps were also
'""~' displayed which showed water and sewer line replacements.
A cost estimate for the project was given as between $4-6 million for
drainage improvements and between $450,000 - $525,000 for water and
sewer line replacements.
A brief question and answer session followed. It was pointed out that
the system was designed for afive-year storm. Drainage issues in the
Selva Marina area were briefly discussed. Mr. Smith indicated that he
needed a consensus of the Commission in order to bring their
recommendations before the St. Johns River Water Management District
(SJRWMD) for their approval. Mr. Smith indicated that he would like
to meet with the SJRWMD before the Stonnwater Review Committee
(SRC) meeting on August lOs'.
There was no more discussion, and it was the consensus of the
Commission to move forwazd with the project. Mayor Meserve
indicated that another public hearing would be held after receipt of the
SRC report.
3. Unfinished business from previous meeting
A. Follow-up report from the meeting of July 10, 2000 (City
Manager)
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City Manager Hanson indicated that there were no additions to his
written report.
4. Consent Agenda:
A. Acknowledge receipt of monthly reports from Building and
Public Safety Departments
Motion: Approve Consent Agenda Item A as presented.
There was no discussion and the motion carried unanimously.
5. Committee Reports:
There were no Committee Reports.
6. Action on Resolutions:
A. Resolution No. 00-12
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC. BEACH,
FLORIDA, REQUESTING THAT BEACH PROPERTY
OWNERS WHOSE RESIDENCES FRONT THE
ATLANTIC OCEAN WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF
ATLANTIC BEACH BE MADE AWARE OF THE SEA
TURTLE NESTING SEASON EACH YEAR
(Commissioner Borno)
Motion: Adopt Resolution No. 00-12.
Commissioner Borno explained the rational for the resolution in detail,
indicating he felt it was best to pursue voluntary management of beach-
front lighting during sea turtle nesting seasons since an ordinance would
not work unless policed.
Commissioner Waters felt it was a good idea to remind the affected
property owners each year, but the resolution offered no means for
enforcement.
There being no further discussion, the motion carried unanimously.
7. Action on Ordinances:
A. Ordinance No. 45-00-14 -Public Hearing and Final Reading
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CODE OF
`~`' ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH,
FLORIDA, AMENDING CHAPTER 20, TAXATION,
ARTICLE III, OCCUPATIONAL LICENSE TAX, SEC. 20-
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59, SCHEDULE OF FEES; AND PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE (City Commission)
Motion: Adopt Ordinance No. 70-00-14 on final reading.
Mayor Meserve presented Ordinance No. 70-00-14 in full, in writing and
read the ordinance by title only. Mayor Meserve then opened the public
hearing and invited comments from the audience.
No one spoke in favor of or in opposition to the ordinance and Mayor
Meserve declazed the public hearing closed.
Commissioner Mitchelson inquired as to number of times the Police
Department had been called to Immortal Body In Ink. Public Safety
Director Thompson recalled one incident, but compared to other types of
businesses, he felt they required no more police service.
Commissioner Mitchelson believed the higher fee was not justified in
this case and requested Commission consideration to lower it.
'°""'' Mayor Meserve believed it would be inappropriate to lower one
classification without giving consideration to the others.
Commissioner Waters noted a discrepancy in the fees charged for the
5,000 or greater square footage classification of retail, service,
professional and manufacturing businesses, and inquired as to why
service and retail establishments were charged more than professional
and manufacturing establishments.
Commissioner Borno stated that he was a member of the 1994 committee
who worked on revisions to the ordinance, but he could not remember
the reasons for those particular figures. He felt the fees should have been
consistent and it was probably done in error.
Commissioner Waters believed that the fees should not be arbitrarily
raised. City Manager Hanson stated that as part of the budget process, all
revenues had been reviewed and costs have increased. He further
explained that state law allows the city to increase the fees 5% every two
yeazs.
Discussion ensued and it was the consensus of the Commission to have
the City Manager and staff look into the fees, with consideration given to
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square foot category be set at $110.00. Mayor Meserve suggested that
the special case list at the end of the ordinance also be reviewed and the
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information brought back for further discussion at the next meeting.
There being no further discussion, the motion carried unanimously.
B. Ordinance No. 95-00-75 -Public Hearing and Final Reading
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH,
FLORIDA, VACATING AND ABANDONING PLATTED
EASEMENTS ON LOTS 8 AND 9, BLOCK 1, OCEAN
GROVE, UNIT NO. 1, AS RECORDED IN PLAT BOOK 15,
PAGE 82 OF THE CURRENT PUBLIC RECORDS OF
DUVAL COUNTY, FLORIDA AND PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE (City Manager)
Motion: Approve passage of Ordinance No. 95-00-75 on final
reading.
Mayor Meserve presented Ordinance No. 70-00-14 in full, in writing and
read the ordinance by title only. Mayor Meserve then opened the public
hearing and invited comments from the audience.
~^ No one spoke for or against the ordinance and the Mayor declared the
public hearing closed.
Commissioner Waters opposed giving up an easement since it might be
needed for future stormwater drainage.
There being no fiirther comments, the motion carried unanimously.
C. Ordinance No. 95-00-76 -Introduction and First Reading
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH,
FLORIDA, AMENDING CHAPTER 11, NOISE, IN ITS
ENTIRETY AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE
(City Manager)
Motion: Approve passage of Ordinance No. 95-00-76 on first
reading.
Commissioner Mitchelson felt that specific hours should be included in
Section 11-2 of the ordinance.
Public Safety Director Thompson explained that the lack of hours in the
ordinance allowed for officer discretion.
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each subsection of the ordinance. Commissioner Borno and Mayor
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Meserve felt that hours were not needed.
There being no further comments, the motion carried by a three to two
vote with Commissioners Beaver and Borno and Mayor Meserve voting
aye and Commissioners Mitchelson and Waters voting nay.
8. Miscellaneous Business:
A. Discussion and possible selection of an architect for the
remodeling of the Adele Grage Community Center
(Commissioner Beaver)
Item 8A was discussed earlier in the meeting, after Item 2L ,
B. Discussion and possible action relative to occupational license
for Nicole L. Gwyn, Immortal Body In Ink
Discussion of Item 8B was included with the discussion of Item 7A.
C. Authorize Gannett Fleming to design the replacement sludge
'"~-`` holding tank at Buccaneer Wastewater Treatment Plant for
$13,000 (City Manager)
Motion: Authorize Gannett Fleming to design the
replacement sludge holding tank at Buccaneer Wastewater
Treatment Plant for $13,000.
City Manager Hanson stated that the type of holding tank was unknown
at this time, but engineering costs would be the same regardless of the
type of tank chosen.
There being no further comments, the motion carried unanimously.
9. City Manager Reports:
City Manager Hanson
Distributed illustrations of the new graphics proposed for the
police cars. There were no objections to the design.
• Stated that the 2000-2001 budget would be distributed to the
Commissioners August 1 ~` and a Budget Workshop was set for
`~'~ 5:00 p.m. August 7"'
10. Reports and/or Requests from City Commissioners and City
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Attorney
Commissioner Waters
Commented on a thank you letter received from Jane Aukens.
Confirmed that Commissioner Mitchelson would be attending the
Florida Shore & Beach Preservation Association Conference in
the fall.
Commented on the lack of maintenance of the landscaping and
trees in Town Center and inquired if the city could maintain some
of the azeas.
Commissioner Beaver advised that the contractor who supplied
the soil was responsible for replacing the weed laden soil before
the city would accept maintenance of the azea.
Commissioner Beaver
`°"~"' Commented on a letter he received from the FDOT concerning
the traffic study for the intersection at Summer Sands on Atlantic
Boulevazd and indicated he would like to send a copy of the letter
to the individual who originally requested the traffic study.
There being no further discussion or business to come before the
Commission, the Mayor declared the
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JULY 24, 2000 COMMISSION MEETING
$tormwater Pr,4iect Questions/Checklist
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Although I am currently a member of the stormwater Review Committee, i
understand that tonight i speak only as an interested citizen and must
therefor comply with the present Commission policy which forbids citizen
questions or comments on agenda items which are not open for public
discussion except during the period set aside far "Courtesy of Floor tc
Visitors."
Y must admit that Y was somewhat disappointed that your SRC was unable
to meet in advance of this meeting and formulate some committee
recommendations/comments for your review and evaluation and since, as an
interested Citizen, I will be unable to ask any questions or comment
during the period set aside for the A&O report.. I d Sto emwaterdocuPeoject
questions/concerns in what I Dell my
Questions/Checklist". Essentially this checklist attempts to identify
for you and for A8,0 several key stormwater issues which I personally am
interested in and which Y hope era covered by Mr. Smith either during
this presentation or at a future date.
stormwater Pro~C"'gstions/~hecklis~
Response Codes
Yes - Recommended and/or adequately covered during Pressntat on.
Noy _NCoveesdmparaeallYdandio tneeds fu the clarifucatgonresentation.
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Yes No ??? theDCOretcity and theo owedring~ofdSher Y Orive andtSeminole
Roadl~aPgrkoand SgevasLagoon?ace drainage of stormwater to
Howe
Yes No ??? 2. Doss the Plan recommend clean-out or deepening of Selva
Lagcon and, if so, is there a recommendation as to how this
may best be accomplished? if so
Yes No ??? 3 • boas tidy lis^cllude some typedof ~t dal Conte ola structure?
does the p
if so,
Yes No ??? pu po system ptonmai no ainndthes l evela olf t5elvaf Gagooner9onan
acceptable level during extreme storm oonditions an .
lacement of additional pumps
will the design iflnecessary?Y p
in the future,
been calibrated to the point that
the model study 5Yr> t0yr,
Yes No ??? 5. Has from various stortable level and, if
water levels res bQipr6dicted to an accep ublished farm and
25yr, i00yr) may
so, what are these levels and are they n P
available for review?
ineer made a comparison of the water levels
~^,. Yes No ??? 5a. Has the ens to the RAM )r sn~®11 f rso~ra~6
resulting from his model st~d11 ETM,
by Previouma7ordd®fferences?
there any
Yes No 7?? 5b. Will the water elevations resulting from the model study
and/or other features recommended in the plan (clean-out of
~ Selva Lagoon, tide control, pump control of level of Selva
Lagoon, etc.) allow for a reduction in the pipe sizes
recommended by ETM and/or CH2M-Hill?
Yes No ??? 5c. Did the model study include an evaluation of the ability
of downstream structures (Fleet Landing culvert, culvert
under Mayport road, AtA ditch and culverts, box culvert
under A1A, etc.) to handle the drainage without flooding?
Yes No ??? 6. Has there bean any preliminary or informal discussions of
the Stormwater Plan with the Saint Johns River Water
Management District and, if so, are there elements of the
plan which may present an approval problem for them?
Respectfully,
Donald L. PhilliRs, P.E.
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City ofAtlantic Beach-Florida
Mr. Mayor and Commissioners:
In relation to the Core City Stormwater Improvements, I would like to hear
the Engineer for Aikenhead & Odom to address questions to the following
major components of their recommendations concerning a successful
drainage of the contracted area during a storm event:
1/How many acres of drainage area their drainage plan covers?
~...., 2/How many gallons of rainwater is expected in the drainage area during a
25 years storm event? In Florida, this storm event must be the basis for
stormwater improvements!
3/ What is the elevation differential between the upstream and downstream
points of the drainage plan?
4/Are there any elevation points, that are higher than the previous elevation
point in the drainage route, that may act like a dam and influence the flow
going downstream?
5/Is the plan include grading of the east-west streets in the drainage area?
6/Is there aTide-water control device in the Plan?
7/Will the stormwater conveying ditches be cleaned out of silt, that
accumulated for several decades?
8/The I S CFS pumping system in the Plan enough to make a d~erence in
flood protection ?Why are we spending money on this?
,~ 9/ Was this Plan presented to the SJRWMfor comments or approval?
10/ Will the Engineer guarantee His plan to eliminate flooding in the Core
City when it is implemented?
Respectfully Yours,
S:Z~e.~w Q. ~. ~~Lr"~-
Stephen A. Kuti