01-03-19 MinutesMINUTES
Parking & Pedestrian Safety Advisory Resource
Committee Meeting
Thursday, January 3, 2019 - 6:00 PM
Commission Chamber
Present: Greg Kupperman, Member
Jennifer Lagner, Co -Chair, PPSARC
Michael Tari, Co -Chair, PPSARC
Paula O'Bannon, Member
Woody Winfree, Member
Dale Wappes, Member
Also Present: Lori Diaz, Records Clerk
6:00 PM CALL TO ORDER
Co -Chair Michael Tari called the meeting to order at 6:00 pm.
6:00 PM ROLL CALL
1. 6:05 PM APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Approve Minutes of the November 15, 2018 10th Street Subcommittee Meeting
Co -Chair Tari asked if there were any changes or corrections to the November 15,
2018 10th Street Subcommittee minutes. There were none and the minutes were
approved as submitted.
2. 6:05 PM COURTESY OF THE FLOOR
Julie Lagoy spoke about her concerns on the 18th Street parking.
Lou Keith spoke about his concerns on the proposed 18th Street parking. He stated he is
opposed to sidewalks and suggested using pervious surfaces for the parking.
Carole Schwartz spoke about ongoing issues with 18th Street parking. She stated she objects
to any parking on Saturiba. She spoke about parking and beach re -nourishment in Neptune and
Jacksonville Beaches.
Susanne Barker spoke about the proposed 18th Street parking and problems with eliminating
parking spaces, her opposition to sidewalks, and spoke in favor of paid parking.
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Jon Lyon spoke about people running the stop sign at 18th Street, his opposition to adding
parking on Saturiba, and spoke in favor of paid parking.
3. 6:30 PM REPORTS AND/OR REQUESTS
A. 18th Street Subcommittee Recommendation
Co -Chair Tari summarized the subcommittee's recommendation for 18th Street was to
have parallel parking (change from head -in) on 18th Street, with a reduction of 20
parking spaces. There was no recommendation for sidewalks, so no effect on the
pervious surface areas. The Commission responded they did not want any reduction to
parking spaces. Suggestions were made by City officials and staff to re -work,
suggesting to make 18th Street a one-way street and also add parking on Saturiba. The
subcommittee has been directed by the Commission to re -work and come back with
another solution and not eliminate parking spaces.
Co -Chair Tari stated the City has had parking problems for some time, which has also
been the cause of some safety issues. The subcommittee made a recommendation that
addressed both parking and safety but the City has rejected it.
A lengthy discussion ensued about how to proceed.
Dale Wappes spoke about pedestrian and resident safety, the disproportionate amount
of traffic in this residential community, and that parallel parking and the elimination of
some parking spaces was a solution to improve safety. He stated there are parking
problems throughout the City and these problems cannot be solved by not making
changes.
Woody Winfree spoke about pedestrian and resident safety, traffic/driving problems,
paid parking being a part of the solution, and readdressing the 18th Street parking
issues and working with what we have.
Greg Kupperman stated that before re -working another proposal, he would like to see
plans (to scale) showing 18th Street as a one-way street with the existing parking
spaces, and the configuration for adding parking on Saturiba. He wants to see how
safety is addressed, how pedestrian access is addressed, how landscaping is addressed,
and how paid parking is incorporated.
Another lengthy discussion ensued about existing parking, increased population and
traffic, improving safety, the challenges of not reduce parking spaces, changing to
parallel parking, paid parking, and pervious sidewalks.
Courtesy of the Floor
Angela Waters inquired about making Ocean Grove Drive one way. The committee
members responded that it is just a rumor.
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A suggestion was made to regroup and have another workshop, including the Police
Department, City officials and staff, and obtaining residents input to move forward.
The committee needs clear parameters established, the latest data on beach re -
nourishment, and representation and input from the Planning Department.
The original version of the recommendation can be tweeked to fit and a second version
can be created showing the Commission's suggestions to make 18th Street a one-way
street, no parallel parking and no reduction of spaces, and adding parking on Saturiba.
This has to be done by February 28th when this Committee sunsets.
B. Review of Future Projects
A lengthy discussion continued about continuing to address the following:
safety issues
parking reconfiguration
paid parking
community involvement
conflicting signage/marking for pedestrians and parking
auditing Marshside and Mayport Road issues
aesthetics
visitor information brochures
a traffic circle at the 5 -way stop
addressing defacto/illegal parking issues
It was suggested to present a request to the Commission to extend this Committee's
sunset date for six months or one year. This will allow enough time for the committee
to complete another 18th Street recommendation, and address the above listed items.
Committee changes were suggested to have only one meeting monthly, on the first
Thursday of each month, reduce to seven (7) members, and designate staff attendance
for these meetings.
Time was allowed for the public to ask questions and the Committee responded to all
inquiries.
8:00 PM ADJOURNMENT
There was no further discussion and Co -Chair Tari adjourned the meeting at 8:08 pm. The
next meeting will be in two weeks.
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Attest:
Lori D az, Records Clerk
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Michael Tari, Co -Chair
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