10 10th Street - Cloisters Unit 52 - Renovation QuestionsOK, “Light-weight concrete” it is.
Thanks,
Dan Arlington
Dan Arlington, CBO
Building Official
City of Atlantic Beach, Florida
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From: Adam Russell [mailto:arussell@russrow.com]
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Subject: RE: 10 10th Street - Cloisters Unit 52 - Renovation Questions
That would be hard to determine but the existing original plans
specified 1-1/2” of lightweight concrete.
See snip below from original plans sheet A-9 so we would not be adding
anything more than it was originally designed for it we went back w/ the
same material.
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From: Arlington, Daniel <darlington@coab.us <mailto:darlington@coab.us>
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Subject: RE: 10 10th Street - Cloisters Unit 52 - Renovation Questions
Adam,
Sorry for the late reply.
I have been looking at this.
I want to make sure that the fire-resistance is not reduced.
Since we do not know what the existing lightweight concrete is, we
can’t be that exact.
I equate fire-resistance with weight per CF.
Are you able to specify a Lbs/CF for the concrete?
Thanks,
Dan Arlington
Dan Arlington, CBO
Building Official
City of Atlantic Beach, Florida
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(904) 247-5813
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Subject: RE: 10 10th Street - Cloisters Unit 52 - Renovation Questions
Good morning sir,
Just wanted to follow-up on this one. I was able to verify the existing
2x10 floor framing is sized properly for the 1-1/2” lightweight concrete
and will put that together in a letter for this one. Is there anything
else you would need structurally for submittal to keep Ranier moving on
this project.
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Subject: RE: 10 10th Street - Cloisters Unit 52 - Renovation Questions
Good morning sir,
Thank you for the response. Yes, they pulled up some of the cracked
portions and I brought samples back to the office. They had a
lightweight bottom layer w/ a normal weight topping in some areas.
I got with a local architect we work with… he says the only current UL
assembly he could find that was wood framed floor w/ 1-5/8” perlite-sand
(lightweight) concrete was UL516 and was not sure what the actual
assembly would’ve been back then when they originally installed it. I
have attached the assembly from Georgia-Pacific that he sent over.
I will be checking all the current members to verify they have the
capacity for the assembly but it will definitely be less weight than
what was there.
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Subject: RE: 10 10th Street - Cloisters Unit 52 - Renovation Questions
Adam,
I would like to see an approved floor/ceiling assembly, fire-rated for
1-hour, come in with the permit application.
You have to be comfortable with the weight.
The existing lightweight concrete doesn’t seem that lightweight.
Has anyone tried to get a rough estimate of a cubic foot of that?
We can’t control the existing construction (especially the ceiling,
below), but if you find a poured product that is part of a 1-hour rated
wood floor/ceiling assembly and you are comfortable with the weight, I
will probably approve it.
Regards,
Dan Arlington
Dan Arlington, CBO
Building Official
City of Atlantic Beach, Florida
darlington@coab.us <mailto:darlington@coab.us>
(904) 247-5813
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Subject: 10 10th Street - Cloisters Unit 52 - Renovation Questions
Good morning sir,
I am working w/ Ranier, Inc. on a renovation to this model… and due to
major cracks in the existing light-weight concrete cover on the floor
(which we also assume served as the fire separation) they are completely
re-doing the floor. They are trying to determine what hour rating the
new floor system needs to be at. I would assume we could go back with
the same material and it would be just like the original…. But I wanted
to get your thoughts prior to suggesting. I believe a typical 1-5/8”
lightweight (perlite concrete) topping is a typical 1hr assembly but
that’s not my expertise…. Typically an architect provides this info. Due
to it being a replacement of existing, I think going back w/ that should
suffice but ultimately I am just verifying all of the structure is good
for this and the few changes they want to make.
Thank you,
Adam Russell, P.E.
VP of Engineering
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