07-20-21 CDB Adopted minutesMINUTES
r 1, Community Development Board (CDB) Meeting4_ Tuesday, July 20, 2021 - 6:00 PM
7 Commission Chamber
Present: Linda Lanier,Member
Jennifer Lagner,Member
Kirk Hansen, CDB Chair
James Moyer,Member
Sylvia Simmons,Member
Jeff Haynie,Member
Absent: Richard Schooling,Alternate Member
Also Present: Abrielle Genest,Planner
Brian Broedell,Principal Planner
1. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
The meeting was called to order at 6:00 p.m.by Chair Hansen. Planner Broedell told the Board
that Director Askew and City Attorney Brenna Durden would not be attending this meeting.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Approve minutes of the June 15, 2021 regular meeting of the Community
Development Board.
MOTION: To APPROVE the minutes of the June 15,2021 Community Development Board
Meeting.
Motion: Jeff Haynie
Second: Linda Lanier
Linda Lanier(Seconded By) For
Jennifer Lagner For
Kirk Hansen For
James Moyer For
Sylvia Simmons For
Jeff Haynie(Moved By)For
Motion passed 6 to 0.
3. OLD BUSINESS
There was no old business.
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4. NEW BUSINESS
A. 275 Sailfish Drive COMP21-0001 (Marshpoint LLC)
Request for a Future Land Use Map (FLUM) amendment to change the future
land use designation of 275 Sailfish Drive from Residential Low Density(RL)
and Residential Medium Density (RM) to Residential High Density (RH)
existing condition).
STAFF REPORT: Planner Broedell presented the information as explained in the staff
report. He also provided a PowerPoint presentation. Planner Broedell said that the case
would also go before the City Commission.
APPLICANT COMMENT: Jean Bakkes introduced himself as the owner of 275
Sailfish Drive. He explained some of the history and said that he planned to renovate
and keep the property as it is due to the cost of redevelopment. Mr.Bakkes is considering
redevelopment in 5 to 10 years.
PUBLIC COMMENT: Chair Hansen opened the floor to public comment. Carole
Schwartz, 1857 Tierra Verde Drive, introduced herself. She had concerns that the new
apartments might cost too much for the common man and impact the city's density.
Christina Wachter, 133 Belvedere Street, introduced herself. She was happy to see that
the property will be improved and spoke in favor of the request. Chair Hansen closed
the floor to public comment.
BOARD DISCUSSION: Mr.Haynie didn't see this request as being consistent with the
comprehensive plan since the property can continue as is without the requested
amendment. Ms.Lanier asked if the property can be renovated without this amendment.
Planner Broedell_said that was correct. The property can be improved upon without an
amendment however it cannot be expanded or add units. Chair Hansen asked if they
could add amenities. Planner Broedell said not now but they can with an amendment
change since this would be considered expanding a non-conforming use. Mr. Moyer
asked if the number of units can be reduced. Planner Broedell said that they can. Ms.
Simmons didn't understand the need for an amendment change if the owner wasn't going
to build additional apartments. Planner Broedell said that the applicant was interested in
redoing the pool, adding some gazebos, etc. The applicant was told that he wouldn't be
able to do that because that would be considered expanding a non-conforming use.
Planner Broedell said that the City has not received a permit request yet but it has been
mentioned.
Mr. Bakkes explained that the pool has been removed due to its age and disrepair. He
said they may put a pool in the back of the building in the future. Mr. Bakkes said they
would like to put in a grill,fire pit,etc. He said that they don't have a plan to immediately
build on the property. Mr. Bakkes explained some other concerns with the property and
in order to make changes he would need the amendment change. He explained that he
didn't apply for a zoning change since they don't have plans at this time to build more
apartments.
Chair Hansen said that he understood that the owner is restricted under the current use
to add any amenities and make other changes. He was in favor of making the property
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conforming and allow the owner to make the improvements that need to be made. Chair
Hansen said it would then give him the opportunity to add apartments in the future. Ms.
Lanier asked how many properties-are there that don't match the current FLUM. Planner
Broedell guessed that there are approximately a dozen. She asked if they would be in
front of the Board in the future to modify the FLUM if they decide to make changes to
their property. Planner Broedell said that was correct. Ms. Lanier spoke in favor of the
request. Mr. Haynie asked for clarification on how the FLUM amendment would make
a difference to whether the applicant could add on to the property. Planner Broedell said
that the applicant wouldn't be able to get a variance to expand a non-conforming use. He
said it would have to be done through the FLUM or rezoning. This would include
accessory structures. Mr.Moyer would have liked to see some plans. Chair Hansen said
that in order for there to be an opportunity to add on to this property and have additional
amenities he recommends approval of this request.
MOTION: To recommend APPROVAL of COMP21-0001 to the City Commission.
Motion: Linda Lanier
Second: James Moyer
Linda Lanier(Moved By) For
Jennifer Lagner For
Kirk Hansen For
James Moyer(Seconded By) For
Sylvia Simmons Against
Jeff Haynie Against
Motion passed 4 to 2.
B. 372 Ahern Street UBEX21-0004 (869, 873, and 877 Charles Allen Drive, LLC,
and Jonh F. Glatting, III)
Request for a use-by-exception to allow a short term rental within the Central
Business District(CBD) zoning district.
STAFF REPORT: Planner Genest presented the information as explained in the staff
report. She also provided a PowerPoint presentation. She explained that short term
rentals are treated like hotels in Commercial districts.
APPLICANT COMMENT: Wade Hampton, 4348 Southpoint Boulevard, Suite 101,
Jacksonville was representing the owner and applicant. He explained the current use of
the property and how changing the property back to a home would have a positive effect
on the area.
PUBLIC COMMENT: Chair Hansen opened the floor to public comment. Debbie
Tufts, 397 Ahern Street, introduced herself. She was concerned about having short term
rentals and asked the Board to consider this request and its affects carefully. Ms. Tufts
asked if short-term rentals were even allowed in Atlantic Beach. Chair Hansen said his
understanding is that they are not. Joyce Downey introduced herself as a previous owner
and spoke about the history of the property. She explained that she just sold the property
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to the current owner and is renting an office there. Ms. Downey spoke against approval
of the request. Carole Schwartz, 1857 Tierra Verde, introduced herself. She was not in
favor of approval of this request. Brogan Canty, 395 Ahern Street,introduced herself.
Ms. Canty was not in favor of approving this request. Chair Hansen closed the floor to
public comment.
BOARD DISCUSSION: Ms. Simmons said that she would not be in favor of approving
this request. Mr. Moyer had no comment. Ms. Lanier was concerned about the short
term rentals having the potential for more activity than the current use. She also didn't
like the fact that there wouldn't be an on-sight manager. Ms. Lanier said she would vote
against it. Mr.Haynie agreed and would vote against it. Ms.Lagner agreed and said she
doesn't support any short term rentals in the City. Chair Hansen said the fact that there
wouldn't be an on-sight manager was a big deciding factor for him and he would not vote
to approve this request.
MOTION: To DENY approval of UBEX21-0004.
Motion: Sylvia Simmons
Second: James Moyer
Linda Lanier For
Jennifer Lagner For
Kirk Hansen For
James Moyer(Seconded By) For
Sylvia Simmons (Moved By) For
Jeff Haynie For
Motion passed 6 to 0.
C. 0 Tulip Street ZVAR21-0010 (Adam McQuiston)
Request for a variance to install a crushed granite/gravel street hi lieu of a
paved street for new.development.
STAFF REPORT: Planner Broedell presented the information as explained in the staff
report. He also provided a PowerPoint presentation.
Mr. Haynie asked if this was based on something that was missed by the City in 2018
when another home went in. Planner Broedell said that the homeowner should have
been required to extend the street to their proposed drive way. Mr. Haynie asked how
far the applicant would have had to extend it. Planner Broedell said it would be
approximately 150 more feet. Ms. Simmons said she didn't think it was fair for the
applicant to pay for the City's oversight. Chair Hansen said that if the house in 2018
didn't get built then the applicant would still need to run the asphalt the whole distance.
Ms. Simmons asked if the applicant can start the asphalt from the existing property line.
Director Broedell explained that the existing road would still need to be improved. Ms.
Simmons questioned why if the applicant is the third developer why would he have to
do the work of the previous developers and the City failed to catch it. Ms.Lagner asked
if the applicant has to put the road in and the City is responsible for maintaining it then
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public works decides it's a bad plan to have gravel, will the City go in, take the gravel
out and replace it with asphalt? Planner Broedell said it is possible if maintenance
became a concern.
APPLICANT COMMENT: Adam McQuiston,768 Vecuna Road,introduced himself
as the applicant. He explained the history of purchasing the property and the road blocks
that him and his wife have run into. Mr. McQuiston said that the City is putting the
onerous on a single homeowner when there are 2 homes already in existence. He showed
that if the previous homeowners would have done what they should have and the City
wouldn't have missed it, then he would only have to put in about 20' of asphalt. Mr.
McQuiston said he was planning to put in granite slur which is similar to concrete. He
went through the costs and said that after the road expense he would not be able to build
his home. Mr. McQuiston went through a list of reasons to approve his request for a
variance and added that he would also have to put septic and sewer. He had a few slides
to show the Board so they could see the existing road and driveways.
Ms. Lagner asked if he asked his neighbors if they could help financially. Mr.
McQuiston said he asked one of them but didn't get any type of commitment. Mr.Haynie
asked about the costs. Mr.McQuiston said it can be roughly $25,000. Mr.Moyer asked
if the City is going to help. Mr. McQuiston said that he spoke to Commissioner Norris
who spoke to the City Attorney and they told him to apply for a variance but there is
nothing they can do. He said he spoke to the Building Department, City Engineer and
Rick Carper. Mr. McQuiston would like to start building a new home within the next
year but the City told him he can't begin his home until road is complete. Ms. Lagner
asked who approves the road and could the applicant complete the road only to have the
City not approve it thereby incurring more costs. Planner Broedell said that Public
Works would have to accept it and there would be inspections along the way.
PUBLIC COMMENT: Chair Hansen opened the floor to public comment. Bob
Austin, 1040 Tulip Street, introduced himself and his mother who built the first house
there in 1983. He explained that a cul-de-sac would be necessary. Mr. Austin said his
mother is in favor of approving this request. Chair Hansen closed the floor to public
comment.
BOARD DISCUSSION: Ms. Simmons spoke about the history of the area and would
like to see the City help that area out. She said it is not fair to put the onerous on the
applicant. Mr.Moyer said that the City should let him do the gravel road and if the City
ends up wanting something else then they can fix it. Ms. Lanier said she was sorry that
the applicant has had to go through this. Mr.Haynie said he was in favor of granting the
variance since the gravel would be far better than its current condition. Ms. Lagner said
that she doesn't believe that the word "developer" in the code was meant for a single-
family home builder. She didn't feel that it was appropriate for this to fall in the
applicant's lap due to a City error. Ms. Lagner said that this is a City road and the City
should stop pushing its costs and development onto residents when they build a home.
She said she is favor of approval of this variance. Chair Hansen explained going through
a similar situation 30 years ago when he built. He had some concern that someone up
the road would also want to put in gravel.
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MOTION:: To APPROVE ZVAR21-0010 based on condition #2 and#3 of the grounds for
decision criteria.
Motion: Jeff Haynie
Second: James Moyer
Planner Broedell asked for clarity of the Boards decision and would it include a cul-de-sac. The
Board concluded there will not be curbing only the granite gravel. There will not be a cul-de-
sac. Motion amended: To APPROVE ZVAR21-0010 to include both the variance to the code
section requiring the paving of the street and the variance to the code section requiring a cul-de-
sac at the dead end of the street.
Linda Lanier For
Jennifer Lagner For
Kirk Hansen For
James Moyer(Seconded By) For
Sylvia Simmons For
Jeff Haynie(Moved By)For
Motion passed 6 to 0.
5. REPORTS
There were no reports.
6. PUBLIC COMMENT
7. ADJOURNMENT
There being no further discussion, Chair Hansen declared the meeting adjourned at 7:50 p.m.
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